2020 Democratic presidential primary

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and b) can win

FAMILY FEUD

srsly no one knows how to judge this, see Nov 2016

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link

"The field is too big. You wonder if some candidates are getting negative ratings simply as a result of voters questioning whether they really should be running," said pollster Patrick Murray. https://t.co/cvS4hFWHa1

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) May 28, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link

Excellent pull from @MarcACaputo @natashakorecki: Ed Rendell, everyone's favorite Pennsylvania whisperer, said Biden could get "tens of thousands of people" to show up for rallies. Off by a few thousand... https://t.co/ezDQevcMuz pic.twitter.com/DIJAGewXf9

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) May 28, 2019


Read the whole thing, which has some awfully foreshadow-y lines from Dems about how actually it's GOOD that Biden is generating less enthusiasm than Bernie/Warren/Buttigieg

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) May 28, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link

I'm skeptical of that notion, to say the least. To the extent that there's a strategy involved, it seems to echo what James Poniewozik says here:

Mr. Biden’s approach may be the strategy of a front-runner looking to avoid unforced errors. But it’s also on-brand in a way: Even as he appeals to supporters’ affection for a pre-Trump era, he also seems to be campaigning in an earlier era, one in which candidates — and the president — weren’t pinging you through your phone every fifteen minutes.

Most of the field seems to operate on the assumption that they need to show they can keep Mr. Trump from hogging the camera as he did in 2016. There’s evidence for that. The candidates who win presidential elections in the TV era (Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Mr. Trump) tend to be the ones who make themselves the lead character of that ongoing serial.

It’s one more divide in the early stages of this campaign. One theory of the case says you beat Donald Trump by offering people a different story, creating a more compelling program. Another says that you win by simply offering to turn the set off for a while, and give them some peace and quiet.

I guess the "turn the set off" approach could work in a primary, but it seems like a disaster in a general election vs. Trump.

jaymc, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

play it 'safe' all the way to yr concession speech

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link

agreed. Biden's people seem to forget that voting isn't a passive activity. most people have to go to a place and stand in a line, and given all the various suppression efforts undertaken by state legislatures, the days and times may be quite inconvenient. and nobody is making you do it. people may prefer candidate x or feel like candidate y is the most electable, but none of that is the same as actually showing up to vote.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

imo: for worse or for much worse, or for even worse than that, i'm not sure how we ever go back from the idea of the president as a constant source of terror/entertainment.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link

and nobody is making you do it.

and in fact, many people are actively trying to prevent you from doing it

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

I don’t think the problem is Biden’s people not realising that enthusiasm is important. I’m sure they do. It’s more they realise the limitations of their candidate.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

number of times each candidate was mentioned on cable news coverage during last two weeks:

https://i.imgur.com/WLqvXsM.jpg

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link

I don't even want to know who Steve Bullock is.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

I knew last week but I've already forgotten this week.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link

Main message of this chart is Delaneymentum obviously

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link

bullock is on deadwood iirc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link

Never mind the Bullock...

nickn, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

a+ troll but also she is going to raise a ton of money from rich tech workers with this

Elizabeth Warren continues calls for breaking up Big Tech with new billboard in Silicon Valley https://t.co/Nl0gdx7c4m pic.twitter.com/eWNv8FA9rJ

— The Verge (@verge) May 29, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link

NEW: @OpenSecretsDC calculated net worth of 2020 presidential candidates from recently released personal financial disclosures detailing detail their debt, holdings & income sources. Find the richest Democrats in the crowded primary election field here: https://t.co/Od7AvsPaEt pic.twitter.com/WJBInVZf66

— Anna Massoglia (@annalecta) May 29, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link

damn, mayor pete must have some serious student loans

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

Nah he probably bought season tickets for his friends

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

.@dominicholden asked all the presidential candidates about decriminalizing sex work. Most were noncommittal or unresponsive; 4 (Booker, Gabbard, Harris, Gravel) said yes to decriminalization (which can mean many things but still); & only DeBlasio said no. https://t.co/jAnbGK9oOe

— Taniel (@Taniel) May 31, 2019

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 May 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link

good for the ones who said yes, however i'm disappointed that no Dem candidates are talking about my other pet issue, which is that free sex should be criminalized

big gym sw0les (crĂĽt), Friday, 31 May 2019 06:25 (five years ago) link

That net worth list seems really fishy to me. Like, look at Kirsten Gillibrand. Her assets are listed as <$100K in a couple of bank accounts. Are they saying she doesn't own a house? And has no retirement savings? No college fund? Seems unlikely. She also lists zero for spousal assets -- per Wikipedia her husband is a "venture capitalist" and I somehow doubt his holdings are zero.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 31 May 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link

They may have a prenup. I was trying to make sense of some of those figures too but I figure some of it may be like law school loans or that they still have high mortgages.

Yerac, Friday, 31 May 2019 13:45 (five years ago) link

I was only a little surprised that I thought Andrew Yang would've been higher.

Yerac, Friday, 31 May 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link

#branding

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D73y9R7WsAEXqLR.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

What brewery is that a mission statement for?

Yerac, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

Just dropping in to say I’ve started yelling at the subject-line gambits (“I shouldn’t be doing this” WELL FUCK OFF OUTTA MY INBOX, THEN) in begging emails sent from Democratic Party candidates.

suzy, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

lost the comic-con vote

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

lol more content-free Buttigieg bullshit

he really is the biggest presidential projection screen since Obama

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

I deeply and authentically hate this document https://t.co/Z6V7kG8UEU

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) May 31, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

Buttigeig shows a deep understanding of modern electoral realities. not that that's necessarily a Good Thing.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

He would be really great as that white guy that leads corporate diversity and inclusivity workshops.

Yerac, Friday, 31 May 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link

Aggressively courting the bobblehead vote.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link

ie he shd be pelted with manure

xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link

I see a lot of chatting but I don't see anyone polling that motherfucker.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

Warren coming for Biden in CA...

Elizabeth Warren's veiled jab at Biden: "Some say that if we just calm down, the Republicans will come to their senses. But our country is in a crisis. The time for small ideas is over." #CADem19

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 1, 2019

"When a candidate tells you about all the things that aren’t possible, about how political calculations come first... they are telling you that they will not fight for you."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 1, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 1 June 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link

wow mom

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 1 June 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

light it up

It's Liz, fam.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 June 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

that is the good stuff

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 1 June 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link

she has my vote

k3vin k., Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:22 (five years ago) link

yep

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:23 (five years ago) link

Time for me to pony up a bit more money. She's earning it.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link

meanwhile, elsewhere https://splinternews.com/a-deeply-depressing-story-about-kirsten-gillibrands-sin-1835146804

El Tomboto, Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link

misleading URLs

big gym sw0les (crĂĽt), Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:42 (five years ago) link

Pramila Jayapal otm as usual; should be speaker imo

This is why Democrats should remember we have to inspire our base, instead of focusing on elusive swing voters. In 2018, even in many swing districts, progressives helped provide margins of victory. Don't ever take these folks for granted. https://t.co/1Fm1Gvy0Fr

— Rep. Pramila Jayapal (@RepJayapal) June 1, 2019

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link


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