Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Maybe they’ll tell the story of how her teeth got ~like that~

The migration into Western Europe from Eastern Europe or the Middle East is more about absolute poverty, while European migration to Australia is about better opportunities among those who wouldn't suffer overly if they had to stay in their native countries

Many of the people moving to the UK are highly-skilled or highly-qualified. It's seen as a 'brain drain' issue in Poland, for example, not just a labour shortage one. There are lots of reasons for people to leave but a fairly common one ime is a sense of frustration at limited opportunities for advancement. In a lot of sectors, you need excellent qualifications (often post-grad degrees) to get an entry-level job and there's a perception that opportunity is tied to age in a very linear way. The UK is seen as more meritocratic and more interested in talent vs experience.

What often ends up happening is people with good degrees in Hungary or Poland ending up serving coffee in London, but i'd expect that to change over time.

did anyone ever explain to Jesse that many MP's throughout postwar history have had regional accents and come from w/c backgrounds or even had regional accents and come from middle class and upwards backgrounds ..and nobody really gives much of a fuck about this these days.

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2019/05/hold-the-line

Wait, Years & Years is a programme? I thought it was some sort of bus mural

There are lots of reasons for people to leave but a fairly common one ime is a sense of frustration at limited opportunities for advancement. In a lot of sectors, you need excellent qualifications (often post-grad degrees) to get an entry-level job and there's a perception that opportunity is tied to age in a very linear way. The UK is seen as more meritocratic and more interested in talent vs experience.

This seems to be true of Italy, from what I've heard from Italian colleagues, and Spain to some extent - limited opportunities that is, not sure the mechanisms are the same.

Apparently Jess Phillips's book had been optioned by TV production company. As a drama. I'm not making this up.

First Caitlin Moran's shite sitcom, now a Jess Phillips biopic, West Midlands so much to answer for.

I was just thinking it will probably be as "hilarious" as that one.

True story: after the Bridgewater Four were released there was a docudrama on the Beeb a few months later and i remember swelling with gratitude at the first time i'd heard west midlands accents on TV not used for "comic" effect

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/951157785168891910/pu/img/vVbM2FxJ0o-t4hti.jpg

"All the laughs of Lena Dunham and Caitllin Moran .. funny and wise " -SPECTATOR

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/if-northern-powerhouse-can-keep-16342805

this deliciously shit new policy from the tories has provoked the ire of nandy and ilx's beloved pacer-spotter sobel

got to admit I'll miss pacer trains when they are gone, or parked next to local community centre as it were.

This seems to be true of Italy, from what I've heard from Italian colleagues, and Spain to some extent - limited opportunities that is, not sure the mechanisms are the same.

Definitely true of Italy, with the economic and cultural regional split factored in, from what i've been told. Come to the UK from Sardinia and you're Italian. Come to Turin or Milan from Sardinia and you're Sardinian. I know people who'd like to move back, given the chance, but feel there's not much to do in the south and they'd be discriminated against in the north.

Maybe we can troll Jess Phillips out of Labour the way we have with that war criminal today

xp everyone is somebodys culchie

that's the problem with multiculchieralism

years & years is so bad my god

my own west midlands biopic will complete the trifecta aka "neither funny nor wise: how to be very online and disappoint most of your followers"

years and years is ok, i'll keep watching it i guess, kind of lost me at the point they had the conga line around the campfire with tubthumping on the soundtrack

It's the sort of thing that can knock you down..

Maybe we can troll Jess Phillips out of Labour the way we have with that war criminal today

Maybe you can read up on this for a few minutes and then sit the fuck down.

What are comrade alphabet and the rest of us missing?

The drama will tell the story of a politician who “has been making the headlines ever since for doing what women are simply not supposed to do: speak up.”

I wouldn't consider telling Dianne Abbott to fuck off to necessarily be a great indicator of a level head, no - but I wouldn't consider it inviting an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either.

It was bad form when they did that to Alastair Campbell too, let’s be honest. Nothing even wrong with his teeth

At least we had the decency to just clown his apparent depression and alcoholism ;p

look its long established ilx tradition that when its ppl weve decided deserve it the rules are suspended

and i mean i say we but i mean

rasputin.jpg

Rah rah Rory S
Lover of the SAS

I gather these may be 4 real

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/28/the-expulsion-of-alastair-campbell-is-a-spartacus-moment-for-labour-members

“I’m Alastair Campbell”

So much revisionism re: Ken Livingstone running as an Independent for his first term. He wanted to be a Labour mayor and was Blairimandered.

i am alastair campbell (no relation)

blair’s war crimes kill a million people: i sleep
the party expels the man whose lies laid the groundwork for those war crimes: REAL SHIT

LEST WE FORGET

https://i.imgur.com/KyH4qHF.png

Lib Dem voters writing to the Guardian in the expectation that they will be expelled from the Labour Party? Struggling to see a downside to this tbh.

I wouldn't consider telling Dianne Abbott to fuck off to necessarily be a great indicator of a level head, no - but I wouldn't consider it inviting an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either.

Andrew - "an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either" isn't my style of trolling.

Diane Abbott says Jess Phillips never told her to FO.

An act of journalism from @matthewchampion pic.twitter.com/PHzvfAVAYq

— Tom Phillips (@flashboy) May 28, 2019

Spartacus II

Bob Ainsworth, defence secretary under Gordon Brown, is also set to be expelled after admitting to voting Green last week.

He said: 'When you see a guy being expelled from the party for doing exactly the same as you've done, you stick your hands up and say: 'I am Spartacus'.'

Seriously though, I imagine everyone outide of his immediate family has forgotten this Bob Carolgees clone ever existed.

The guy's not even been ennobled yet, that's how memorable his political career was.

just need hoey to admit to voting BXP

this is a good thread on the background to the auto exclusion process

Alistair Campbell did not get expelled for voting Lib Dem but for promoting another party (an austerity enabling party at that) & warning people not to vote Labour. We don’t tell people how to vote but our rules prevent support of candidates opposed to labour during an election 1

— Maria Carroll Labour PPC Carmarthen East (@Maria4CarmsEast) May 28, 2019

Alex Sobel for next leader

Civilisation series by Sid Meier

— (((Alex Sobel MP))) (@alexsobel) May 28, 2019

Not meaning to be snippy, gyac, but that's not news to me. I'm assuming you're not saying that it happens to every woman, so they should all have a thick skin, but if you're not saying that then I don't know what you're saying?

This was quite good:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/may/unhinged

yes, sets out a good view of the position we've reached but then doesn't say anything about what could or should happen next

Everybody who is a soft Left critic of team Corbyn has lost their fucking minds (of those that had minds to lose, that is).