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Insular view: another chinless twat who wants shooting in thhe back

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:30 (seven years ago)

Comrade alphabet is on this occasion correct - Rory Stewart content should be confined to the cordon sanitaire of the leadership thread.

gyac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:32 (seven years ago)

otm, i have taken my stewartbaiting over to the correct thread, pls to return to matters quebecois

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:40 (seven years ago)

isn't Kew Gardens like £20 to get in?

(£16.50)

koogs, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

you can probably vault the fence from the Thames path if you're super keen

imago, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:47 (seven years ago)

Meanwhile

The life story of outspoken Labour MP Jess Phillips will be turned into a television drama by the team behind the BBC series Years and Years. https://t.co/HrR4PgdJn5

— i newspaper (@theipaper) May 28, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:50 (seven years ago)

does the kew gardens cafe do milkshakes?

koogs, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:53 (seven years ago)

please tell me its at least called kewl beans

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:01 (seven years ago)

good grief.. Jesse Phillips pls tell me about the time your mum said something really funny in a .. gosh *regional accent* . ho ho ho . priceless material.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:07 (seven years ago)

Maybe they’ll tell the story of how her teeth got ~like that~

suzy, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:12 (seven years ago)

The migration into Western Europe from Eastern Europe or the Middle East is more about absolute poverty, while European migration to Australia is about better opportunities among those who wouldn't suffer overly if they had to stay in their native countries

Many of the people moving to the UK are highly-skilled or highly-qualified. It's seen as a 'brain drain' issue in Poland, for example, not just a labour shortage one. There are lots of reasons for people to leave but a fairly common one ime is a sense of frustration at limited opportunities for advancement. In a lot of sectors, you need excellent qualifications (often post-grad degrees) to get an entry-level job and there's a perception that opportunity is tied to age in a very linear way. The UK is seen as more meritocratic and more interested in talent vs experience.

What often ends up happening is people with good degrees in Hungary or Poland ending up serving coffee in London, but i'd expect that to change over time.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:15 (seven years ago)

did anyone ever explain to Jesse that many MP's throughout postwar history have had regional accents and come from w/c backgrounds or even had regional accents and come from middle class and upwards backgrounds ..and nobody really gives much of a fuck about this these days.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:20 (seven years ago)

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2019/05/hold-the-line

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Wait, Years & Years is a programme? I thought it was some sort of bus mural

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)

There are lots of reasons for people to leave but a fairly common one ime is a sense of frustration at limited opportunities for advancement. In a lot of sectors, you need excellent qualifications (often post-grad degrees) to get an entry-level job and there's a perception that opportunity is tied to age in a very linear way. The UK is seen as more meritocratic and more interested in talent vs experience.

This seems to be true of Italy, from what I've heard from Italian colleagues, and Spain to some extent - limited opportunities that is, not sure the mechanisms are the same.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:41 (seven years ago)

Apparently Jess Phillips's book had been optioned by TV production company. As a drama. I'm not making this up.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)

First Caitlin Moran's shite sitcom, now a Jess Phillips biopic, West Midlands so much to answer for.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)

I was just thinking it will probably be as "hilarious" as that one.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:45 (seven years ago)

True story: after the Bridgewater Four were released there was a docudrama on the Beeb a few months later and i remember swelling with gratitude at the first time i'd heard west midlands accents on TV not used for "comic" effect

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:48 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/951157785168891910/pu/img/vVbM2FxJ0o-t4hti.jpg

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:56 (seven years ago)

"All the laughs of Lena Dunham and Caitllin Moran .. funny and wise " -SPECTATOR

calzino, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:02 (seven years ago)

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/if-northern-powerhouse-can-keep-16342805

this deliciously shit new policy from the tories has provoked the ire of nandy and ilx's beloved pacer-spotter sobel

ogmor, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:10 (seven years ago)

got to admit I'll miss pacer trains when they are gone, or parked next to local community centre as it were.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:12 (seven years ago)

This seems to be true of Italy, from what I've heard from Italian colleagues, and Spain to some extent - limited opportunities that is, not sure the mechanisms are the same.

Definitely true of Italy, with the economic and cultural regional split factored in, from what i've been told. Come to the UK from Sardinia and you're Italian. Come to Turin or Milan from Sardinia and you're Sardinian. I know people who'd like to move back, given the chance, but feel there's not much to do in the south and they'd be discriminated against in the north.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:16 (seven years ago)

Maybe we can troll Jess Phillips out of Labour the way we have with that war criminal today

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:18 (seven years ago)

xp everyone is somebodys culchie

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:27 (seven years ago)

that's the problem with multiculchieralism

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:29 (seven years ago)

years & years is so bad my god

||||||||, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:29 (seven years ago)

my own west midlands biopic will complete the trifecta aka "neither funny nor wise: how to be very online and disappoint most of your followers"

mark s, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:30 (seven years ago)

years and years is ok, i'll keep watching it i guess, kind of lost me at the point they had the conga line around the campfire with tubthumping on the soundtrack

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:36 (seven years ago)

It's the sort of thing that can knock you down..

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:40 (seven years ago)

Maybe we can troll Jess Phillips out of Labour the way we have with that war criminal today

Maybe you can read up on this for a few minutes and then sit the fuck down.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

What are comrade alphabet and the rest of us missing?

The drama will tell the story of a politician who “has been making the headlines ever since for doing what women are simply not supposed to do: speak up.”

Does this include the time she supposedly told Diane Abbott to fuck off?

gyac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

I wouldn't consider telling Dianne Abbott to fuck off to necessarily be a great indicator of a level head, no - but I wouldn't consider it inviting an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:29 (seven years ago)

It was bad form when they did that to Alastair Campbell too, let’s be honest. Nothing even wrong with his teeth

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:35 (seven years ago)

At least we had the decency to just clown his apparent depression and alcoholism ;p

calzino, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:39 (seven years ago)

look its long established ilx tradition that when its ppl weve decided deserve it the rules are suspended

and i mean i say we but i mean

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:47 (seven years ago)

rasputin.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:51 (seven years ago)

Rah rah Rory S
Lover of the SAS

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:52 (seven years ago)

I gather these may be 4 real

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/28/the-expulsion-of-alastair-campbell-is-a-spartacus-moment-for-labour-members

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:11 (seven years ago)

“I’m Alastair Campbell”

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:15 (seven years ago)

So much revisionism re: Ken Livingstone running as an Independent for his first term. He wanted to be a Labour mayor and was Blairimandered.

suzy, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:19 (seven years ago)

i am alastair campbell (no relation)

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:21 (seven years ago)

blair’s war crimes kill a million people: i sleep
the party expels the man whose lies laid the groundwork for those war crimes: REAL SHIT

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

LEST WE FORGET

https://i.imgur.com/KyH4qHF.png

mark s, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

Lib Dem voters writing to the Guardian in the expectation that they will be expelled from the Labour Party? Struggling to see a downside to this tbh.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

I wouldn't consider telling Dianne Abbott to fuck off to necessarily be a great indicator of a level head, no - but I wouldn't consider it inviting an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either.

I’m lost and idg how the two are related. I’ve also got some bad news for you about outspoken female politicians, and especially those who are (for example) black or gay or disabled...

gyac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:44 (seven years ago)

Andrew - "an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either" isn't my style of trolling.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:57 (seven years ago)

Diane Abbott says Jess Phillips never told her to FO.

suzy, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:12 (seven years ago)

An act of journalism from @matthewchampion pic.twitter.com/PHzvfAVAYq

— Tom Phillips (@flashboy) May 28, 2019

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