Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

xp I used to be bff with a Quebecer and she always said how when she lived in France the French mocked her, saw her as backwards etc, while she was telling me that Quebecois is the same form of French that was spoken in the 15thc etc...

Also as it looks like this isn’t going to post, aren’t there famously tons of French in London? And many or most of those are quite wealthy.

i mean a ton of parisiens is a lot of parisiens

anyone near kew gardens fancy a chat with rory? he might still be lurking behind a bush ready to leap out and monologue about his achievements in iraq and afghanistan with unsuspecting passersby

Now - if anyone is around and wants to talk - in Kew Gardens - for the next hour pic.twitter.com/E45A26Y5uR

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) May 28, 2019

Indeed, gyac.

As for your Quebecer friend, yes, that's how it usually goes. I may have already told this anecdote elsewhere on ILX, but I once had a francophone colleague from Manitoba (French is her mother tongue but her accent sounds vaguely anglo to the untrained ear) who presented a paper at a conference in Paris. As soon as she finished, the organiser, a Frenchman, paraphrased the gist of her argument because 'you probably didn't understand a thing she said anyway'.

https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/360/0314/17/gerry-anderson-stingray-aquaphibian_360_e4e293e3485a99a806bcf485eb1d7454.jpg

Point of order can we have all Rory Stewart material in the Tory leadership thread I need it all in one place when I need a good laugh thanks

It's not quite true that Québécois French is a more ancient variety of the language, however. It has retained certain archaisms that have disappeared from French French, but it is shot through with English-like syntactical constructions and anglicisms that are quite distinct. The Office québécois de la langue française aims to curb that tendency, at times successfully, but the claim that Québécois French is 'purer' (a ludicrous notion to begin with) is mostly just nationalist nonsense.

2xp

Similar sitch to US/UK English in many respects

I believe you, esp cos she also told me how her family was “pure laine”.

Anyway, I'm going to stop derailing this thread so we can talk about Rory Stewart, who is in fact a prime example of the worldly Brit archetype.

Insular view: another chinless twat who wants shooting in thhe back

Comrade alphabet is on this occasion correct - Rory Stewart content should be confined to the cordon sanitaire of the leadership thread.

otm, i have taken my stewartbaiting over to the correct thread, pls to return to matters quebecois

isn't Kew Gardens like £20 to get in?

(£16.50)

you can probably vault the fence from the Thames path if you're super keen

Meanwhile

The life story of outspoken Labour MP Jess Phillips will be turned into a television drama by the team behind the BBC series Years and Years. https://t.co/HrR4PgdJn5

— i newspaper (@theipaper) May 28, 2019

does the kew gardens cafe do milkshakes?

please tell me its at least called kewl beans

good grief.. Jesse Phillips pls tell me about the time your mum said something really funny in a .. gosh *regional accent* . ho ho ho . priceless material.

Maybe they’ll tell the story of how her teeth got ~like that~

The migration into Western Europe from Eastern Europe or the Middle East is more about absolute poverty, while European migration to Australia is about better opportunities among those who wouldn't suffer overly if they had to stay in their native countries

Many of the people moving to the UK are highly-skilled or highly-qualified. It's seen as a 'brain drain' issue in Poland, for example, not just a labour shortage one. There are lots of reasons for people to leave but a fairly common one ime is a sense of frustration at limited opportunities for advancement. In a lot of sectors, you need excellent qualifications (often post-grad degrees) to get an entry-level job and there's a perception that opportunity is tied to age in a very linear way. The UK is seen as more meritocratic and more interested in talent vs experience.

What often ends up happening is people with good degrees in Hungary or Poland ending up serving coffee in London, but i'd expect that to change over time.

did anyone ever explain to Jesse that many MP's throughout postwar history have had regional accents and come from w/c backgrounds or even had regional accents and come from middle class and upwards backgrounds ..and nobody really gives much of a fuck about this these days.

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2019/05/hold-the-line

Wait, Years & Years is a programme? I thought it was some sort of bus mural

There are lots of reasons for people to leave but a fairly common one ime is a sense of frustration at limited opportunities for advancement. In a lot of sectors, you need excellent qualifications (often post-grad degrees) to get an entry-level job and there's a perception that opportunity is tied to age in a very linear way. The UK is seen as more meritocratic and more interested in talent vs experience.

This seems to be true of Italy, from what I've heard from Italian colleagues, and Spain to some extent - limited opportunities that is, not sure the mechanisms are the same.

Apparently Jess Phillips's book had been optioned by TV production company. As a drama. I'm not making this up.

First Caitlin Moran's shite sitcom, now a Jess Phillips biopic, West Midlands so much to answer for.

I was just thinking it will probably be as "hilarious" as that one.

True story: after the Bridgewater Four were released there was a docudrama on the Beeb a few months later and i remember swelling with gratitude at the first time i'd heard west midlands accents on TV not used for "comic" effect

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/951157785168891910/pu/img/vVbM2FxJ0o-t4hti.jpg

"All the laughs of Lena Dunham and Caitllin Moran .. funny and wise " -SPECTATOR

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/if-northern-powerhouse-can-keep-16342805

this deliciously shit new policy from the tories has provoked the ire of nandy and ilx's beloved pacer-spotter sobel

got to admit I'll miss pacer trains when they are gone, or parked next to local community centre as it were.

This seems to be true of Italy, from what I've heard from Italian colleagues, and Spain to some extent - limited opportunities that is, not sure the mechanisms are the same.

Definitely true of Italy, with the economic and cultural regional split factored in, from what i've been told. Come to the UK from Sardinia and you're Italian. Come to Turin or Milan from Sardinia and you're Sardinian. I know people who'd like to move back, given the chance, but feel there's not much to do in the south and they'd be discriminated against in the north.

Maybe we can troll Jess Phillips out of Labour the way we have with that war criminal today

xp everyone is somebodys culchie

that's the problem with multiculchieralism

years & years is so bad my god

my own west midlands biopic will complete the trifecta aka "neither funny nor wise: how to be very online and disappoint most of your followers"

years and years is ok, i'll keep watching it i guess, kind of lost me at the point they had the conga line around the campfire with tubthumping on the soundtrack

It's the sort of thing that can knock you down..

Maybe we can troll Jess Phillips out of Labour the way we have with that war criminal today

Maybe you can read up on this for a few minutes and then sit the fuck down.

What are comrade alphabet and the rest of us missing?

The drama will tell the story of a politician who “has been making the headlines ever since for doing what women are simply not supposed to do: speak up.”

I wouldn't consider telling Dianne Abbott to fuck off to necessarily be a great indicator of a level head, no - but I wouldn't consider it inviting an offer to give Jess Phillips a good fucking to sort out her teeth, either.

It was bad form when they did that to Alastair Campbell too, let’s be honest. Nothing even wrong with his teeth

At least we had the decency to just clown his apparent depression and alcoholism ;p

look its long established ilx tradition that when its ppl weve decided deserve it the rules are suspended

and i mean i say we but i mean

rasputin.jpg

Rah rah Rory S
Lover of the SAS

I gather these may be 4 real

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/28/the-expulsion-of-alastair-campbell-is-a-spartacus-moment-for-labour-members