Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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FFS etc

The Blairites can be relied on to take a point in time where the Tories are about to inflict great self harm and then inflict it on the Labour Party instead. Almost as if they'd rather the Tories stay in power https://t.co/Me40pnRm43

— Naadir (conditional citizen) Jeewa (@naadirjeewa) May 26, 2019

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:10 (seven years ago)

They’re getting lots of help from the BBC tbf.

suzy, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:24 (seven years ago)

Results coming in now:

North East, result:

Brex: 2 MEPs (+2)
Lab: 1 (-1)

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) May 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:30 (seven years ago)

Extremely amused at the eat the book cunt getting owned

Salvini polled 6% in 2014 - just six per cent.
He is about to poll above 25%.

If you only look at recent snapshot polls and not the longer-term trends that are rumbling through Europe then you miss the real story. https://t.co/RBsjiauppe

— Matthew Goodwin (@GoodwinMJ) May 26, 2019



are you trying to explain my country to me?

— Alberto Nardelli (@AlbertoNardelli) May 26, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:35 (seven years ago)

The BBC has forecast that the Brexit Party will top the polls, with the pro-EU Liberal Democrats set to come second and the ruling Conservative party set to receive between 10 and 12% of the vote, down from 24% in 2014.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:38 (seven years ago)

Chuka having a fucking mare on Sky rn

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:42 (seven years ago)

sure fine whatever

NEW: Following Tom Watson / People's Vote collusion earlier, Remain supporting Labour source says there will now be a fresh move by MPs against Corbyn

Says the focus will be on changing Labour policy to support a second ref, challenging Corbyn's leadership if he refuses

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) May 26, 2019

||||||||, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:44 (seven years ago)

Manchester results - Tommy Robinson gets 2,171. Labour 40,191, Lib Dems 21,041, Brexit Party 15,069. Rest to follow... @MENnewsdesk

— Samantha Yarwood (@samyarwood89) May 26, 2019

calzino, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:45 (seven years ago)

xp Wes Streeting has been very restless recently

tbh a lot of Labour decrease will be remain voters making a point by voting LD/Green? And with a Tory headbanger incoming they’d probably want to move on it, but idk I’m not an electoral genius or w/e.

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:50 (seven years ago)

FBPErs gonna be extra insufferable tomorrow.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:54 (seven years ago)

Don’t know why they should be, the vote splitting cost them at least two seats that I saw so far.

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:58 (seven years ago)

Re that North East result:

North East result: 2 Brexit 1 Lab. Fiona short by 15,000 - Change UK got 25,000. A pity that they have prevented a Remain MEP being elected. Lib Dem share rose from 6% to 17% - would have been enough to win a seat in other regions

— North East Lib Dems 🔶 (@NELibDems) May 26, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:59 (seven years ago)

I know that Goodwin tweet is funny but actually apart from Salvini he seems wrong on trends -- Le Pen and Wildeers are down. AfD about the same. Like this is not quite pointing at populists or what have you.

Brexit party are a bit of an outlier -- the elections here have a totally different feel.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:02 (seven years ago)

CONFIRMED London result: Lib Dems win 3 MEPs, Labour 2 MEPs, Brexit Party 2 MEPs, Green Party 1 MEP

— Tom Rayner (@RaynerSkyNews) May 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:03 (seven years ago)

Tories out!

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:04 (seven years ago)

Godwin’s got one answer to every political issue and it’s that there needs to be more immigrant-bashing in politics. I live for this cunt being shown up.

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:05 (seven years ago)

FPBEs are always insufferable, but particularly when crowing about Islington results.

suzy, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:05 (seven years ago)

As pointed out elsewhere on twitter, Islington south was a Lib Dem marginal when Thornberry first won it.

Absolutely tragic that this Conservative MEP trooper won’t be returning to Brussels:

Members of European Parliament in Strasbourg reacted with rage after Syed Kamall, the leader of the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR), said Nazis subscribed to a “left-wing ideology” and “want the same things” as Socialists do.

Kamall, the voice of the U.K. Conservative Party in the Parliament, was responding to an earlier speech by German MEP Udo Bullmann, the leader of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats, during which he said that “right-wing nationalism and extremists” are “undermining the European Union.”

In reply, Kamall told Bullmann: “When you talk about right-wing extremists, we have to remember that Nazis were national socialists. It’s a strain of socialism.”

He then added: “It’s a left-wing ideology, they want the same things as you, let’s be quite clear.” When the chamber erupted in outrage, with some MEPs shouting out “rubbish,” Kamall said: “You don’t like the truth, do you?”

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:09 (seven years ago)

Totally confident it will be fine for Labour:

We’re witnessing a nightmare future for the Labour Party. Its metropolitan Hampstead voters have fled to the Liberal Democrats; the provincial Humberside heartlands to the Brexit party. The fence Jeremy Corbyn has been sitting on has been taken away. #EuropeanElectionResults

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) May 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:11 (seven years ago)

CHUK deny LDs a seat in wales and NE

||||||||, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:32 (seven years ago)

supremely dumb election

||||||||, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:38 (seven years ago)

Batshit Batten's unseated.

nashwan, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:41 (seven years ago)

Yorkshire & the Humber get 6 MEPs and the 6th one is @MagicMagid for the Greens, so that (and the Batten result) is some good news which might mean it's a good time to go to bed...

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 26 May 2019 22:54 (seven years ago)

Daniel Hannan out?

gyac, Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:01 (seven years ago)

The Lib Dem results are arguably good for the main parties - because they act as a reminder that this is a single-issue election, and we should no more fear rule by the Brexit Party than we should fear rule by the Lib Dems.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:01 (seven years ago)

btw this is from over an hour ago on the Graun liveblog but I felt the need to paste it here

an election agent ... found one ballot which had ‘wank’ written in every single box apart from that of the Green party. The voter left a note saying ‘not wank’ for the environmentalist party which was deemed acceptable as a vote.

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:03 (seven years ago)

Claire Fox MEP. The most depressing aspect of this election.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:34 (seven years ago)

Apart from namby pamby Remoaners voting for a pro-austerity party.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:35 (seven years ago)

So is there a Brexit this week or what

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:57 (seven years ago)

Was that funny in your mind

FernandoHierro, Monday, 27 May 2019 00:03 (seven years ago)

Rather unfortunately John Curtice seems unable to pronounce the word, 'European'.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Monday, 27 May 2019 00:35 (seven years ago)

xxxxxp to a passing spacecadet

Should have been 'good guy' for the greens, surely....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_UGD7AazMI

brain (krakow), Monday, 27 May 2019 00:54 (seven years ago)

Soubz is a mess. First talking usual bollox about CuKs lack of party tribalism and new way of doing politics etc, then angrily dismissing Heidi Allen's LibDem pact/tactical voting talk as "bizarre". It sounds like they might even split into two more parties before next GE.

calzino, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:07 (seven years ago)

is it bad? I can't even really tell - has that feeling of people seeing what they want to see

that Brexit party logo is good - massive improvement on ukip branding

anvil, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:13 (seven years ago)

it does sound like Corbyn is going to be put under increasing 2nd ref pressure. And Farage says He's Ready.

calzino, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:33 (seven years ago)

I’m VERY curious to know which agency did the Brexit Party PPB and branding, and who paid for it.

suzy, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:38 (seven years ago)

lot of calls for mr seumas milne to have a long hard look at himself this morning

Seumas Milne is George Soros for the most boring people alive.

— linkshund (@linkshund) April 27, 2019

||||||||, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:41 (seven years ago)

If Seumas (still daily calls up his best pal/guru Galloway .. or Chief is it?) then he has only one degree of separation between himself and Farage and fucking Bannon. Just saying!

calzino, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:55 (seven years ago)

They’re all projecting based on Campbell’s role back when, yes?

suzy, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:55 (seven years ago)

that’s as may be. labour’s policy is formed democratically by conference though - not by the whims of the corbyn whisperer. this idea that policy is being held hostage by “lexit cranks” is conspiracist nonsense

||||||||, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:04 (seven years ago)

Oh, I totally agree. There’s nothing like a Milne The Shadowy Puppetmaster hot take for making me question someone’s intelligence (and I notice that nobody itt has ever drawn that conclusion).

suzy, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:16 (seven years ago)

What I like most about the Brexit party logo is how 'Public Information' and neutral seeming it is. 'This way to the waterslides" , 'Leaving the EU is now on platform 7 over the footbridge"

anvil, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:29 (seven years ago)

It's definitely a design improvement on Ukip's pound sign travesty - jesus wept - only a dysfunctional party would have stuck with that for so long.

it's been similar to the post local elections autopsy on R4 this morning, where lots of commentators who know better - all talking in high octane speak what these results transposed to a GE would mean. I'm not saying the results are meaningless, but it's a 40% turnout and ppl vote differently in EU elections, and yes Farage is polling high in Westminster polls but erm..famous last words - don't panic or maybe do.

calzino, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:36 (seven years ago)

Claire Fox MEP. The most depressing aspect of this election.

otm

gyac, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:41 (seven years ago)

Also anyone extrapolating these results to a GE is a total charlatan. As if, as fucking if.

gyac, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:45 (seven years ago)

What else are Lib Dems gonna do?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:48 (seven years ago)

I just saw a Corbyn should watch it in his Islington seat thank you Jesus for this tweet.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:51 (seven years ago)

Totally. But I do think Labour have to pivot now, as we’ve reached that stage in the conference agreement. Tories will not call a GE of their own volition and the Labour membership needs to be enthused enough to go out campaigning as they did in 2017. So that means a strong ‘stay and fight’ rather than ‘remain and reform’ message (‘reform’ being usually a term to manage cuts or privatisation in the hands of ‘modernisers’, see also ‘changes’). I also think that precariously employed Leavers in the Midlands/North can be appealed to with attention on jobs, services and attacks on the attitudes of the right.

suzy, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:56 (seven years ago)

Can't really tell - there seems to be a more cohesive effort on Farage's part to explicitly target Westminster rather than just leaving EU. The beginnings of a pivot. Whether thats successful or not is another thing entirely (and depends what you define 'successful' as). I think you're right on turnout (didn't realize turnout in last GE was almost 70%! - or that its risen for 4 straight elections!)

so yeah, extrapolating too credulously is dumb but on the other hand...is it implausible to think Farage couldn't take... 10% of Tory seats in a GE? especially if the Tories don't choose Boris? I don't really have a handle

anvil, Monday, 27 May 2019 08:00 (seven years ago)

Corbyn hasn't changed his line at all (the tweet is saying it's a shift but if it's that just look at the quote)

Most signif news of the night for Labour, @jeremycorbyn says: "With the Conservatives disintegrating and unable to govern, and parliament deadlocked, this issue will have to go back to the people" - via either an election or a referendum.https://t.co/O2Ie0WmI96

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) May 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2019 08:02 (seven years ago)


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