US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

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stop saying hard and heavy, it's turning me on

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:10 (seven years ago)

basically is this is indicative of more things to come what is wrong with pointing it out now ? or just let us know when exactly it is ok to be offended

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:11 (seven years ago)

first they came for the capitalists, and i said something

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:14 (seven years ago)

In the world of billable hours $650 isn't shocking at all

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:17 (seven years ago)

I think that high figure came from when she was working with a law firm too. That whole article with headline is a mess.

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:18 (seven years ago)

I wonder if Obama ever made those Cantor Fitzgerald speeches that everyone got into such a huff about.

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:20 (seven years ago)

The Apocalypse News, August 2023 Edition

BREAKING: Lawyers Routinely Make $650/hour and More, Analysts Say

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:20 (seven years ago)

and some of these "lawyers" end up in positions of great authority. Sources say that some lawyers have even become president of the united states

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:21 (seven years ago)

not lady lawyers

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

re: Kausic^ the Post article is as indicative of the “Hillarification” (ugh) of EW as his tweet is reminiscent of the DNC playbook that helped stick us with a shit candidate: Responding to any callout on her corporate sympathies/warmongering/race demagoguing with accusations of misogyny in order to blunt the contrast with her opponent in the primaries.

Agreed, it’s gonna be a long season.

ftr I love Liz Warren, she’s my senator, she’s brilliant, she’s definitely no HRC, and I’d be very happy if she were president

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

I honestly don't even understand how calling out a politician on any behavior whatsoever is an efficacious maneuver at this point. It feels like the ship of holding them to any ethical standard has definitively sailed.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:30 (seven years ago)

yeah newspapers should send out one lonely reporter to write down what the candidates say once in awhile

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:34 (seven years ago)

The story is that a person took normal rates for doing normal hours, and it's framed as if it's deeply nefarious, and it only works because of sexism.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:34 (seven years ago)

ok

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:38 (seven years ago)

Ah I see a ton of people pushing back on how terribly written that Wapo thing is. Good.

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:40 (seven years ago)

i cannot figure out what is newsworthy about the warren story and since the writers didn't bother to explain what was newsworthy either people are going to make up motivations/intent to fill that gap

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:41 (seven years ago)

Also, Hilary got torpedoed by a scandal over her doing the same stuff with her emails that everyone else did, and in the end the freaking leader of the FBI involved himself a few weeks before the election. That was such a gigantic unprecedented thing, and it's an essential part of her legacy, and if anyone objects to the term 'Hilarification' to be used on stuff like that, then they're basically full of shit.

Nobody objects to 'Watergate' being used as a term because they hate the hotel so much...

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:43 (seven years ago)

I’m not low

The story is that a person took normal rates for doing normal hours, and it's framed as if it's deeply nefarious, and it only works because of sexism.
The story is that a person took normal rates for doing normal hours, and it's framed as if it's deeply nefarious, and it only works because of sexism.


what was the “story” on Bernie’s book profits? Ageism? Antisemitism? jfc

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:44 (seven years ago)

That he refused to publish his tax returns. Then basically nothing happened.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

Wasn't the story that he dragged his heels on releasing his taxes forever, caused people to speculate on a reason and the book profits sent him over the million mark?

ha xpost

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

Also, it was Bernie himself who did a presser and said he'd become a millionaire because he wrote a good book.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

Fred you are truly a font of illogic

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:49 (seven years ago)

maybe an idiot could argue that bernie is critical of capitalism and wealth and so his earning lots of money and owning lots of houses represents hypocrisy. warren however calls herself a capitalist so what's even the dumb person's argument?

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:49 (seven years ago)

Xps

Until like a week later when he released them: https://berniesanders.com/tax-returns/

DJI, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:50 (seven years ago)

she wants to end finance speculation, corruption, protect consumers, etc therefore her earning money as a lawyer is...???

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:50 (seven years ago)

#buthersalary

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:53 (seven years ago)

It was bullshit to make a stink about a guy making money on his book. It is also bullshit to make a stink about a corporate lawyer making money on corporate law.

What is decidedly *not* bullshit when evaluating candidates for the presidency is acknowledging these respective histories in order to gain insight into where they come from.

Skins are papery thin up in here

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:54 (seven years ago)

It doesn't really matter, but lol at saying Bernie published his tax returns a week later. He'd been running for president for four years at that point...

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:55 (seven years ago)

all those Fire Island parties have fried Josh Barro's brain:

People have gotten so used to formats where news is used to Make A Point that they can't read an article about a candidate's professional history without finding an implied attack in it. Putting her hourly rate in the headline was not an ideal choice, but the news inside is news. https://t.co/ASYCIiUWah

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) May 23, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

Dude, nobody made a stink about the book. Bernie preemptively defended himself about it, then people shook their heads a little. It's not the same thing.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

You’re never going to get over that time he let BLM activists speak at his rally, huh?

DJI, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:57 (seven years ago)

It was bullshit to make a stink about a guy making money on his book. It is also bullshit to make a stink about a corporate lawyer making money on corporate law.

What is decidedly *not* bullshit when evaluating candidates for the presidency is acknowledging these respective histories in order to gain insight into where they come from.

Skins are papery thin up in here

― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII)

The story is okay -- it's the headline and framing that make what she did sound unusual if not nefarious, and this is how we got to #butheremails in 2016.

Skins sure are papery!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:57 (seven years ago)

surely this story will still be relevant an hour from now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:58 (seven years ago)

Good thread:

🗣 WHO FUCKING CARES.

This is the going rate for elite legal services. I was being billed out at $575 when I was a fucking fifth year associate because that’s what BigLaw charges.

This is infuriating. https://t.co/Le3vBH81Y4

— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) May 23, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:59 (seven years ago)

This is clearly dumb. Journalists think it’s similar to like hillary’s speaking fees but it’s not because the latter was a roundabout way of allowing corporations to buy influence.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:01 (seven years ago)

Dude, nobody made a stink about the book. Bernie preemptively defended himself about it, then people shook their heads a little. It's not the same thing.


That he refused to publish his tax returns. Then basically nothing happened.


This is such disingenuous bullshit. If you don’t understand that the issue was a specious argument about hypocrisy wrt his 1% message I don’t know what to tell ya

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:04 (seven years ago)

when you publish a news story you are implicitly arguing "this is important and newsworthy" - it is the job of the journalist to explain what is newsworthy about the story.

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:05 (seven years ago)

Hadrian, Bernie was the one who told the story himself. So you think he was being a hypocrite, or what is your point?

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:07 (seven years ago)

I think Hadrian's right in that this seems much more like an effort to puncture Warren's progressive bona fides than a sexist slam. Either way though everyone else is also right that there doesn't really seem to be a newsworthy story here.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:08 (seven years ago)

Fair^

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:14 (seven years ago)

xp This is not complicated, but ok. Republicans were champing at the bit to cry “hypocrite!” because “duh but how could a member of the 1% be against the 1%?”

That’s what the controversy was and why he felt compelled to defend that income. lol it had little to do w him dragging his feet on his tax returns

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:15 (seven years ago)

the story itself is more like "In 2012 EW released a list of 13 cases she worked on, now she's released a list of 54. Here's some info about them." The headline, presumably not written by the reporters (Elise Viebeck and Annie Linskey) is the problem

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:16 (seven years ago)

Ok Hadrian, but right now you're comparing Republican behaviour to the Washington Post, as if that's the same thing...

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:20 (seven years ago)

.@GOPLeader on SpeakerPelosi: "This is irresponsible. This is not a way to be – to govern." pic.twitter.com/pSstGJfMYt

— CSPAN (@cspan) May 23, 2019

hahaha ok buddy

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:22 (seven years ago)

the EW thing and the reaction..

social media has officially fried everyone's brainz

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:28 (seven years ago)

xxp I am arguing that 1) the article’s headline misses its point and is sensationalistic, but to call it misogynistic fails to see how it is consistent with treatment of other candidates and is typical of newspapers to boot, and 2) that per evol^ inasmuch as a candidate’s progressive cred is of interest to voters in a primary it is newsworthy

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:31 (seven years ago)

<3 EW

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:32 (seven years ago)

Pelosi low key slaying Trump at her presser today

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:51 (seven years ago)

so low-key that you probably missed it

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:55 (seven years ago)

Here it is:

.@SpeakerPelosi: "I wish that his family or his administration or his staff would have an intervention for the good of the country." pic.twitter.com/SmFxvxTanv

— CSPAN (@cspan) May 23, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:06 (seven years ago)


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