US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

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She's a former Republican who once advocated permanent immunity for Travelers Insurance from asbestos-related lawsuits

And I'lll vote for her! But let's not get it twisted.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:06 (seven years ago)

to me it's just the way it is framed especially consider the context of all the other shit going on. idk maybe it's fine

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

it's not fine, lol

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:09 (seven years ago)

yeah newspapers should bury stories about candidates u like

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:10 (seven years ago)

Rex Tillerson, a man who is “dumb as a rock” and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be Secretary of State, made up a story (he got fired) that I was out-prepared by Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Hamburg, Germany. I don’t think Putin would agree. Look how the U.S. is doing!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 23, 2019

the master of the self own ! hiring only the best people

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

Lemieux:

Frankly, I don’t trust people who charge people who can afford it the fair market rate for expert services. She should have inherited $400M illegally shielded from taxes from her daddy, or looted a casino, or refused to pay her bills, like a Real American.

The “best” part is going to be watching pundits who have spent weeks arguing that law professors have an absolute inalienable vested right to having their lucrative contracts as glorified dorm RAs perpetually renewed at their pleasure pivot to pretending to believe there’s something highly disturbing and unusual about prominent legal academics providing legal services.

The time between now and November 2020 will be the longest 100 years of my life.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

I have chosen one of the truly great business leaders of the world, Rex Tillerson, Chairman and CEO of ExxonMobil, to be Secretary of State.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 13, 2016

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

tbf the lizards were still in control of tillerson back then

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:22 (seven years ago)

Even when the story itself may be relatively innocuous & fact-based, such headlines are deliberate attempts to stir up a particular kind of #sexist #misogynistic shit. Media’s learnt nothing from ‘16, has it?

As many have pointed out, begun the Hillaryfication of @ewarren has. pic.twitter.com/OvmDoSPeng

— Kausik (@kausikdatta22) May 23, 2019

this otm regarding that article imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

because *every* presidential candidate doesn’t have his/her professional past scrutinized

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:50 (seven years ago)

it's not about the content of the article so much especially in a time where a lot of people don't even read the thing they just see a shady looking headline

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:54 (seven years ago)

But *all* headlines around these candidates are written to provoke.

“While teaching, Elizabeth Warren worked on more than 50 legal matters, charging as much as $675 an hour”

Clear misogyny!

The problem is that actual misogyny going to come hard and heavy...doing this now over the most standard-fare candidate vetting is going to inure ppl to the real deal, and alienate supporters of other candidates who resent the assertion

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:01 (seven years ago)

doing this now over the most standard-fare candidate vetting is going to inure ppl to the real deal

can't say i can see how this is true

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:05 (seven years ago)

I think we're more likely to see similar headlines about Bernie (This fact seemingly goes against candidate's anti-corporate image) than about the other female candidates

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:07 (seven years ago)

The problem is that actual misogyny going to come hard and heavy...doing this now over the most standard-fare candidate vetting is going to inure ppl to the real deal, and alienate supporters of other candidates who resent the assertion

― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, May 23, 2019 11:01 AM (five minutes ago)

or you can look at it as planting the seeds in the minds of voters before the hard and heavy stuff

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:08 (seven years ago)

stop saying hard and heavy, it's turning me on

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:10 (seven years ago)

basically is this is indicative of more things to come what is wrong with pointing it out now ? or just let us know when exactly it is ok to be offended

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:11 (seven years ago)

first they came for the capitalists, and i said something

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:14 (seven years ago)

In the world of billable hours $650 isn't shocking at all

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:17 (seven years ago)

I think that high figure came from when she was working with a law firm too. That whole article with headline is a mess.

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:18 (seven years ago)

I wonder if Obama ever made those Cantor Fitzgerald speeches that everyone got into such a huff about.

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:20 (seven years ago)

The Apocalypse News, August 2023 Edition

BREAKING: Lawyers Routinely Make $650/hour and More, Analysts Say

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:20 (seven years ago)

and some of these "lawyers" end up in positions of great authority. Sources say that some lawyers have even become president of the united states

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:21 (seven years ago)

not lady lawyers

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

re: Kausic^ the Post article is as indicative of the “Hillarification” (ugh) of EW as his tweet is reminiscent of the DNC playbook that helped stick us with a shit candidate: Responding to any callout on her corporate sympathies/warmongering/race demagoguing with accusations of misogyny in order to blunt the contrast with her opponent in the primaries.

Agreed, it’s gonna be a long season.

ftr I love Liz Warren, she’s my senator, she’s brilliant, she’s definitely no HRC, and I’d be very happy if she were president

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

I honestly don't even understand how calling out a politician on any behavior whatsoever is an efficacious maneuver at this point. It feels like the ship of holding them to any ethical standard has definitively sailed.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:30 (seven years ago)

yeah newspapers should send out one lonely reporter to write down what the candidates say once in awhile

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:34 (seven years ago)

The story is that a person took normal rates for doing normal hours, and it's framed as if it's deeply nefarious, and it only works because of sexism.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:34 (seven years ago)

ok

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:38 (seven years ago)

Ah I see a ton of people pushing back on how terribly written that Wapo thing is. Good.

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:40 (seven years ago)

i cannot figure out what is newsworthy about the warren story and since the writers didn't bother to explain what was newsworthy either people are going to make up motivations/intent to fill that gap

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:41 (seven years ago)

Also, Hilary got torpedoed by a scandal over her doing the same stuff with her emails that everyone else did, and in the end the freaking leader of the FBI involved himself a few weeks before the election. That was such a gigantic unprecedented thing, and it's an essential part of her legacy, and if anyone objects to the term 'Hilarification' to be used on stuff like that, then they're basically full of shit.

Nobody objects to 'Watergate' being used as a term because they hate the hotel so much...

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:43 (seven years ago)

I’m not low

The story is that a person took normal rates for doing normal hours, and it's framed as if it's deeply nefarious, and it only works because of sexism.
The story is that a person took normal rates for doing normal hours, and it's framed as if it's deeply nefarious, and it only works because of sexism.


what was the “story” on Bernie’s book profits? Ageism? Antisemitism? jfc

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:44 (seven years ago)

That he refused to publish his tax returns. Then basically nothing happened.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

Wasn't the story that he dragged his heels on releasing his taxes forever, caused people to speculate on a reason and the book profits sent him over the million mark?

ha xpost

Yerac, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

Also, it was Bernie himself who did a presser and said he'd become a millionaire because he wrote a good book.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)

Fred you are truly a font of illogic

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:49 (seven years ago)

maybe an idiot could argue that bernie is critical of capitalism and wealth and so his earning lots of money and owning lots of houses represents hypocrisy. warren however calls herself a capitalist so what's even the dumb person's argument?

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:49 (seven years ago)

Xps

Until like a week later when he released them: https://berniesanders.com/tax-returns/

DJI, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:50 (seven years ago)

she wants to end finance speculation, corruption, protect consumers, etc therefore her earning money as a lawyer is...???

Mordy, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:50 (seven years ago)

#buthersalary

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:53 (seven years ago)

It was bullshit to make a stink about a guy making money on his book. It is also bullshit to make a stink about a corporate lawyer making money on corporate law.

What is decidedly *not* bullshit when evaluating candidates for the presidency is acknowledging these respective histories in order to gain insight into where they come from.

Skins are papery thin up in here

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:54 (seven years ago)

It doesn't really matter, but lol at saying Bernie published his tax returns a week later. He'd been running for president for four years at that point...

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:55 (seven years ago)

all those Fire Island parties have fried Josh Barro's brain:

People have gotten so used to formats where news is used to Make A Point that they can't read an article about a candidate's professional history without finding an implied attack in it. Putting her hourly rate in the headline was not an ideal choice, but the news inside is news. https://t.co/ASYCIiUWah

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) May 23, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

Dude, nobody made a stink about the book. Bernie preemptively defended himself about it, then people shook their heads a little. It's not the same thing.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

You’re never going to get over that time he let BLM activists speak at his rally, huh?

DJI, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:57 (seven years ago)

It was bullshit to make a stink about a guy making money on his book. It is also bullshit to make a stink about a corporate lawyer making money on corporate law.

What is decidedly *not* bullshit when evaluating candidates for the presidency is acknowledging these respective histories in order to gain insight into where they come from.

Skins are papery thin up in here

― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII)

The story is okay -- it's the headline and framing that make what she did sound unusual if not nefarious, and this is how we got to #butheremails in 2016.

Skins sure are papery!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:57 (seven years ago)

surely this story will still be relevant an hour from now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:58 (seven years ago)

Good thread:

🗣 WHO FUCKING CARES.

This is the going rate for elite legal services. I was being billed out at $575 when I was a fucking fifth year associate because that’s what BigLaw charges.

This is infuriating. https://t.co/Le3vBH81Y4

— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) May 23, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:59 (seven years ago)

This is clearly dumb. Journalists think it’s similar to like hillary’s speaking fees but it’s not because the latter was a roundabout way of allowing corporations to buy influence.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:01 (seven years ago)


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