Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

well exactly - it's not today or yesterday people decided they're hurting their enemies by discussing them ad infinitum all day on a platform which promotes the most mentioned things

xpost

rough music

It hasn't vanished completely. During the 2012 anti-tuition hike protests in Quebec, it was our weapon of choice:

https://lesindignesduquebec.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rc3a9volution-du-printemps-c3a9rable.jpg

In the television show The Waltons, the episode titled "The Shivaree" focused around a wedding between a city boy and a country girl. The groom almost calls off the marriage after being humiliated by a shivaree thrown by his wife's family and friends.

don't remember the waltons being this dark

It had its moments.

feel like ilx has been shivareeing away for years

Less successfully than Twitter.

People aren't going to stop talking about them on social media and even if they somehow did I'm not convinced it would make any difference to the standing of a party whose voter base is disproportionately made up of pensioners and the over-50s.

I'm guessing that May's 'New Deal' is just going to be a reheated version of the WA and will immediately be dismissed as such, but if Labour have somehow thrashed out a deal then that's suicidal for them.

people aren't going to stop doing lots of terrible, damaging things. we can only run our own lives.

if it has no effect either way people should talk about the politics they support on twitter.

Right *carries on talking about funny anti-fascist protests on twitter*

you seem sure enough so you may as well go for it.

I’m... fairly sure those are the politics I support yes

good you've defined them so optimistically

I'm going to go on twitter and post a photo-shopped yeti landing on Normandy beach in WW2. Real anti-fascist in action here!

Taking the debate to Hitler!

we need all the tweets we can get right now

30 years ago you would ignore a fascist in the street

EU Parliament investigating Nigel Farage’s funding.

that will play perfectly to his base.

30 years ago you would ignore a fascist in the street

not the argument i made tbf

but fuck it, it's not a hill i want to die on.

30 years ago was NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF tbh

not an archie bunker I vant to die in!

there is no foolproof way of dealing with the far right: there's always a possibility your inaction or actions will lead someone else to sympathise with them. the milkshakes are a reaction to the fact they've already been put centre stage by the media, they are not short of oxygen or only looking for attention

EU Parliament investigating Nigel Farage’s funding.

― suzy, 21. maj 2019 17:03 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that will play perfectly to his base.

― calzino, 21. maj 2019 17:03 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Speaking as an outsider, but with what just happened in Austria, couldn't it hurt Farage quite a lot?

Theresa May is speaking now.

She say her job was and is to deliver Brexit.

And she wants a country that works for everyone, she says.

this feels like a poem missing its crushing volta.

Theresa May is speaking now.
She say her job was and is to deliver Brexit.
And she wants a country that works for everyone.
I lean back, as the evening darkens and comes on.
A chicken hawk floats over, looking for home.
I have wasted my life.

from the charivari wiki:

The participants were generally young men temporarily bestowed with the power of rule over the everyday affairs of the community.

what could possibly go wrong??

The offer in the May speech: 1] UK will protect jobs by seeking as close to frictionless trade in goods with the EU as possible white outside the single market and ending freedom of movement

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) May 21, 2019

it's good not bad except when it isn't
said the yeti worriedly
as the pitch bubbled
and the rail approached

hmmm

May confirms there will be a vote on whether to hold a second referendum. To MPs: ‘Let the WAB have a second reading and then make your case to Parliament’ https://t.co/vuRCksHv8D

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) May 21, 2019

At first she tried to deliver this with Conservative votes. She even offered to give up the job she loved.

UK will protect jobs by seeking as close to frictionless trade in goods with the EU as possible white outside the single market and ending freedom of movement

https://image.spreadshirtmedia.net/image-server/v1/compositions/123872827/views/1,width=650,height=650,appearanceId=370,version=1439812226/some-people-just-want-the-moon-on-a-bloody-stick-this-could-either-be-given-as-a-gift-to-a-particularly-demanding-person-or-worn-and-pointed-to-app.jpg

May says this is a great time to be alive.

Britain can make a success of the 2020s and 2030s.

But it will not do that if it remains stuck in the Brexit impasse, she says.

Sunderland have some good young players coming through.

She says, with the right Brexit deal, she can end this debate.

She says the UK will have opportunities outside the EU. And it will be able to do even more if it has a deal. It can protect trade, and protect security partnerships.

This is a huge opportunity for the UK, she says - out of the EU, out of every closer union, free to do things differently.

May says this opportunity is practical and deliverable.

But it is “slipping away from us”, she says. In the distance, church bells ring. A car passes by. A child cries for its mother.

joking aside this speech is hilarious/tragic even by may's usual standards: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/may/21/brexit-latest-news-developments-cabinet-to-discuss-latest-brexit-offer-to-mps-as-ministers-feud-in-public-over-no-deal-live-news

May says this deal will set the groundwork for life outside the EU.

But in future, Britain will be able to choose how it develops. Some will want it to move closer to the EU. Others will want it to move further away.

Future governments will be able to decide, she says.

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_meddouhgyB1rsuxuyo6_250.gif&f=1

lol

_UK will protect jobs by seeking as close to frictionless trade in goods with the EU as possible white outside the single market and ending freedom of movement_


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lol bg

So do I have this right: May is offering people who want a second referendum, and who now has leverage because she needs their votes on the withdrawal agreement, not a second referendum in return for them giving up their leverage, but a parliamental vote for a second referendum, which they have no chance of winning without leverage? So she just think that they're idiots or what?

Good to see Theresa is perfectly calm and PMing as she always does.

It's now her standard playbook of "I'm appearing to give you the thing you want but AHA if you can see through my cunning ruse there is a sting in the tail"

parliamental indeed

a vote on having a vote, which they have already had without asking her, and didn't win last time

of course if it does scrape through this time round, hope someone has a plan for stopping the usual warmongers, austerity enthusiasts and the brain geniuses who've made CUK's publicity so persuasive declaring themselves The Voice of Remain, again

Speaking as an outsider, but with what just happened in Austria, couldn't it hurt Farage quite a lot?

I'm going for "no" bcz British people imagine their politics happen entirely in a vacuum and what some foreigners did in foreignland can't possibly be related to our good ol' British patriots, no matter how many connections you can draw (and most of the press won't draw any, and anyone who does will only hear "lol paranoid much" or "but Soros")

it'd be nice to be wrong, of course

haven't checked in in a while, sounds like the plan is to continue holding votes on Brexit for the next thousand years?

Y'know when you miss the old "I like where this government is going" jpegs?

xp next thousand years or until fascists take over / the EU have finally had enough of our bullshit and we crash out, yeah

of course there'll be more negotiations and more protracted parliamentary stalemate and more deja vu after that, whatever the next stage is

Also spacecadet v otm re anybody in the UK giving a shit about corruption but i can't keep up today

Anyhoo i thought there was a right-thinking parliamentary majority for ref 2 who's been lying to me?

Milkshake for May

Let's have a meaningful vote on it.