Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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is that really the two options we have, either have him on question time or allow him to trend on twitter as we lol at him?

maybe you're right and it's already too late for such an approach, i dunno, i just tend to think we drag fringe things into the centre by expressing our hatred for them or ridiculing them on social media. it's a bit chicken egg but presumably question time are using some bullshit 'he gets people talking' logic too.

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:09 (seven years ago)

not on this exact topic but this article was p interesting i thought: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-alarming-return-of-nigel-farage

A candidate named Andrew Kerr, whose middle name is England, promised, “We are going to fight corruption.”

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:11 (seven years ago)

presumably question time are using some bullshit 'he gets people talking' logic too

i'd be more inclined to give question time the benefit of the doubt were it not for their audience producer being unmasked as a far-right wingnut a while back

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:14 (seven years ago)

Is there a reason to think that about Westboro? Always assumed they were very much in the no such thing as bad publicity camp?

Indeed, but their strategy backfired for the most part. To such an extent that Fox News briefly tried to rebrand them as a secret liberal plot aimed at discrediting the right.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:15 (seven years ago)

xpost i dunno if it even matters - my experience of bbc newsrooms was an obsession with that kind of metric when deciding what to cover, coupled with a sort of (self?) hatred of stereotypical centre-left views and a fascination with 'real people' where a real person is someone with right wing views.

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:16 (seven years ago)

Anita Bryant and the pie is the ultimate example of a bit of comestible chucking turning out beautifully
https://pictorial.jezebel.com/lets-remember-the-time-anita-bryant-got-a-pie-to-the-fa-1829785694

stet, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:17 (seven years ago)

someone should do a party by party analysis of what the effect of a pie to the leader's face would be

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:19 (seven years ago)

[insert ill-advised pie chart pun]

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:20 (seven years ago)

The first milkshake thrown was indeed the day before the kid who went viral - in Bury.

Knew it.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:22 (seven years ago)

there is something really shady and "of the night about" Brendan Cox. Not just just that he was a confirmed serial sex pest and quite a dangerous one at times apparently. But I can't listen to anything he's got to say .. he's a nauseating slimeball lib type character as well off course.. but also wouldn't be surprised if he's got human remains under the patio.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:22 (seven years ago)

but other than that you're a fan?

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:25 (seven years ago)

lol.. just think a serial sex pest offender (or even a reformed one) isn't in the best position to preach on any matters of what is appropriate in political protest.. but he get's extra points for experiencing a family tragedy .. which is wrong imo.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:30 (seven years ago)

Told that by the end of Cabinet today chief whip warned the PM her bill still very unlikely to pass in the Commons despite tweaks. Source says PM appeared to ignore his warning.

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) May 21, 2019

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:32 (seven years ago)

cant believe it

had real hopes that her going away and coming back again would have done the trick

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:36 (seven years ago)

PM very much in character iirc

xp

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:37 (seven years ago)

it seemed like such a foolproof plan, literally shaking and crying rn

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:37 (seven years ago)

if she listened to the begrudgers she'd have given in years ago - more power to her imo.

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:38 (seven years ago)

I'd stand her bill passing on betfair all day long if I knew how to that .. and if there would be anyone puddled enough to bet on it.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:39 (seven years ago)

The child had a wooden reel with a piece of string wound round it. It never occurred to him, for example, to drag this after him on the floor and so play horse and cart with it, but he kept throwing it with considerable skill, held by the string, over the side of his little draped cot, so that the reel disappeared into it, then said his significant ‘o-o-o-oh’ and drew the reel by the string out of the cot again, greeting its reappearance with a joyful ‘Da’ (there). This was therefore the complete game, disappearance and return, the first act being the only one generally observed by the onlookers, and the one untiringly repeated by the child as a game for its own sake, although the greater pleasure unquestionably attached to the second act.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:40 (seven years ago)

is that really the two options we have, either have him on question time or allow him to trend on twitter as we lol at him?

Pretty much! There's no conceivable way for Farrage to not be in the news the week of EU elections, this whole "don't give him free publicity" thing is a red herring.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:41 (seven years ago)

Yaxley-Lennon was all over the news - and my timeline - before he got milkshaked too. These people take great care to stay in the headlines and have plenty of powerful friends guaranteeing it, do not feed the troll works even less in real life than on ILX.

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Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:43 (seven years ago)

why are they forcing that yeti to drink tea

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:45 (seven years ago)

people emptying boxes of water into the harbour in the background is a surrealist touch.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:50 (seven years ago)

it makes you yearn for the obsessive labelling of a modern master like ben garrison, it really does

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:51 (seven years ago)

Oh so it's anti-Yankee propaganda:

A 1774 British print depicted the tarring and feathering of Boston Commissioner of Customs John Malcolm. Tarring and feathering was a ritual of humiliation and public warning that stopped just short of serious injury. Victims included British officials such as Malcolm and American merchants who violated non-importation by importing British goods. Other forms of public humiliation included daubing victims’ homes with the contents of cesspits, or actual violence against property, such as the burning of stately homes and carriages. This anti-Patriot print showed Customs Commissioner Malcolm being attacked under the Liberty Tree by several Patriots, including a leather-aproned artisan, while the Boston Tea Party occurred in the background. In fact, the Tea Party had taken place four weeks earlier.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:53 (seven years ago)

why did they tar and feather that poor yeti

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:54 (seven years ago)

Other forms of public humiliation included daubing victims’ homes with the contents of cesspits

one for future antifash protestors to bear in mind, just sayin like

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:55 (seven years ago)

xp
they might have been from Hartelepool originally.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:56 (seven years ago)

In Boston in January 1774, John Malcom argued with Bostonian George Hewes over Malcom’s rough treatment of a boy in the street. Malcom struck Hewes with his cane and fled the scene. Word of the assault spread, and Bostonians congregated at Malcom’s home, eventually dragging him outside. He was thrown into a cart and driven through the city streets. The crowd had Malcom stripped and covered first with tar and then feathers, giving him a "modern jacket." The riotous parade continued through the city, stopping periodically to demand Malcom renounce British authority, which he refused to do. The mob drove on past the Liberty Tree, where they threatened to hang Malcom. They put a rope around his neck, tied him to the gallows, and beat him with clubs. Malcom, severely injured, was eventually driven back to his home and unceremoniously rolled off the cart.

The milkshake is the modern "modern jacket".

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:57 (seven years ago)

that very scene was recreated quite brutally in the very good HBO John Adams mini-series iirc.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:58 (seven years ago)

at least the protestors gave malcolm a lift home, a courtesy cruelly denied to farage by today's milkshake militants

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:59 (seven years ago)

you dont shit on your own doorstepper

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:00 (seven years ago)

If you can't fight 'em, become one with the funnel:

https://eclecticlightdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/boschtemptationstanthonyna.jpg?w=978

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:04 (seven years ago)

wow dark souls 4 looks amazing

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:05 (seven years ago)

A Bosch-themed ARPG would be amazing tbh.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:07 (seven years ago)

mocap titus welliver, a dream come true

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

looked up "riding out of town on a rail" (found more yetis being abused, you hate too see it) and chased on through to "rough music" and (what's this?) "charivari"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Huck_Finn_Travelling_by_Rail.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:11 (seven years ago)

maybe you're right and it's already too late for such an approach, i dunno, i just tend to think we drag fringe things into the centre by expressing our hatred for them or ridiculing them on social media

That fringe party currently polling at 34% btw.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:12 (seven years ago)

no wonder the yeti has developed such a criplling fear of contact with humanity, smdh

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:13 (seven years ago)

well exactly - it's not today or yesterday people decided they're hurting their enemies by discussing them ad infinitum all day on a platform which promotes the most mentioned things

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FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:13 (seven years ago)

rough music

It hasn't vanished completely. During the 2012 anti-tuition hike protests in Quebec, it was our weapon of choice:

https://lesindignesduquebec.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rc3a9volution-du-printemps-c3a9rable.jpg

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:16 (seven years ago)

In the television show The Waltons, the episode titled "The Shivaree" focused around a wedding between a city boy and a country girl. The groom almost calls off the marriage after being humiliated by a shivaree thrown by his wife's family and friends.

don't remember the waltons being this dark

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

It had its moments.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

feel like ilx has been shivareeing away for years

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

Less successfully than Twitter.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:21 (seven years ago)

People aren't going to stop talking about them on social media and even if they somehow did I'm not convinced it would make any difference to the standing of a party whose voter base is disproportionately made up of pensioners and the over-50s.

I'm guessing that May's 'New Deal' is just going to be a reheated version of the WA and will immediately be dismissed as such, but if Labour have somehow thrashed out a deal then that's suicidal for them.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

people aren't going to stop doing lots of terrible, damaging things. we can only run our own lives.

if it has no effect either way people should talk about the politics they support on twitter.

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

Right *carries on talking about funny anti-fascist protests on twitter*

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:46 (seven years ago)

you seem sure enough so you may as well go for it.

FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:47 (seven years ago)


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