Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

I think I would question anyone who’s saying that stuff like this

Diane Abbott receives so many racist messages that her office does not have time to take them to the police every day, so an assistant bundles them up and sends them once a week.

A recent survey found that a third of all abuse sent to politicians goes to the shadow home secretary, one of Jeremy Corbyn’s closest allies, who 30 years ago became Britain’s first black female MP.

And we have the fun of the wa being rejected, may going and a headbanger successor appointed before then xp

Related:

http://gal-dem.com/why-are-some-people-more-outraged-by-milkshakes-than-racism/?utm_campaign=TwitterAutoPost&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

FTPA + a Tory party in meltdown should put it off for as long as possible, the lamer a duck is the longer it hangs on for.

Probably the stupidest of the many stupid things that the Independents did was say they wouldn't vote against the govt in a VONC, or do anything to precipitate a GE. An anti-Brexit party who have vowed not to do the one thing that might prevent Brexit - removing the Tories from power.

A gen election three years away is too much certainty when there is usually some calamity most weeks.

brexit will be an issue for the next two or three general elections at least. the sense of false urgency around brexit waxes and wanes, it might force the tories to do something wacky but I don't see the benefit of labour buying into it.

The first milkshake thrown was indeed the day before the kid who went viral - in Bury.

In theory the knowledge that the country fucking hates them might change Conservative behaviour - but in practice it'll probably be split between "the clear lesson is we should definitely pass the WA", "the clear lesson is that we should definitely not pass the WA", and "lol EU elections, Farage always does well at those"

More milkshakes thrown at right-wingers please. It's the perfect vehicle for deflating their pretensions to grandiosity.

New Brexit deal to be announced at 4pm. Quite something we are having vote at all.

Did anyone run this by the EU or is it more fantasy.

we discussed it elsewhere, and it's gone around on twitter, but my only concern with the milkshaking is how much mileage farage/yax gets out of it. the whole viral lol at farage thing doesn't seem to hurt him much, as far as i can see. more like a path to success. as long as they're being talked about they're winning imo.

if we're talking lived experiences i guess it's p interesting that brendan cox came out and condemned the milkshake throwing, while prefacing it by saying he condemns farage.

but i think the effect of sharing the videos or not is a more important thing to question than the act of throwing the milkshake, seems a legit protest to me and i agree with the idea that it's all too easy to say otherwise if you're not part of a group being targeted by far right.

personally i'm not convinced sharing the vids is a good thing - it just makes farage trend in the media. i don't think farage's route to success is about grandiosity. it's 'they hate me'

but it's impossible to prove either way i suppose.

Coverage of the Westboro Baptist Church in the US likely contributed to a decrease in homophobia. But as you say, these things are hard to prove.

ersonally i'm not convinced sharing the vids is a good thing - it just makes farage trend in the media. i don't think farage's route to success is about grandiosity. it's 'they hate me'

if farage is gonna be in the media, i'd much rather it be because he got drenched in sweet delicious milkshake and everyone laughed at him than because he was invited onto question time to bloviate for the 50th time

Is there a reason to think that about Westboro? Always assumed they were very much in the no such thing as bad publicity camp?

Yeah that viewpoint is predicated on an unmilkshaked farage getting no coverage this week, which is not reality xp

is that really the two options we have, either have him on question time or allow him to trend on twitter as we lol at him?

maybe you're right and it's already too late for such an approach, i dunno, i just tend to think we drag fringe things into the centre by expressing our hatred for them or ridiculing them on social media. it's a bit chicken egg but presumably question time are using some bullshit 'he gets people talking' logic too.

not on this exact topic but this article was p interesting i thought: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-alarming-return-of-nigel-farage

A candidate named Andrew Kerr, whose middle name is England, promised, “We are going to fight corruption.”

presumably question time are using some bullshit 'he gets people talking' logic too

i'd be more inclined to give question time the benefit of the doubt were it not for their audience producer being unmasked as a far-right wingnut a while back

Is there a reason to think that about Westboro? Always assumed they were very much in the no such thing as bad publicity camp?

Indeed, but their strategy backfired for the most part. To such an extent that Fox News briefly tried to rebrand them as a secret liberal plot aimed at discrediting the right.

xpost i dunno if it even matters - my experience of bbc newsrooms was an obsession with that kind of metric when deciding what to cover, coupled with a sort of (self?) hatred of stereotypical centre-left views and a fascination with 'real people' where a real person is someone with right wing views.

Anita Bryant and the pie is the ultimate example of a bit of comestible chucking turning out beautifully
https://pictorial.jezebel.com/lets-remember-the-time-anita-bryant-got-a-pie-to-the-fa-1829785694

someone should do a party by party analysis of what the effect of a pie to the leader's face would be

[insert ill-advised pie chart pun]

The first milkshake thrown was indeed the day before the kid who went viral - in Bury.

Knew it.

there is something really shady and "of the night about" Brendan Cox. Not just just that he was a confirmed serial sex pest and quite a dangerous one at times apparently. But I can't listen to anything he's got to say .. he's a nauseating slimeball lib type character as well off course.. but also wouldn't be surprised if he's got human remains under the patio.

but other than that you're a fan?

lol.. just think a serial sex pest offender (or even a reformed one) isn't in the best position to preach on any matters of what is appropriate in political protest.. but he get's extra points for experiencing a family tragedy .. which is wrong imo.

Told that by the end of Cabinet today chief whip warned the PM her bill still very unlikely to pass in the Commons despite tweaks. Source says PM appeared to ignore his warning.

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) May 21, 2019

cant believe it

had real hopes that her going away and coming back again would have done the trick

PM very much in character iirc

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it seemed like such a foolproof plan, literally shaking and crying rn

if she listened to the begrudgers she'd have given in years ago - more power to her imo.

I'd stand her bill passing on betfair all day long if I knew how to that .. and if there would be anyone puddled enough to bet on it.

The child had a wooden reel with a piece of string wound round it. It never occurred to him, for example, to drag this after him on the floor and so play horse and cart with it, but he kept throwing it with considerable skill, held by the string, over the side of his little draped cot, so that the reel disappeared into it, then said his significant ‘o-o-o-oh’ and drew the reel by the string out of the cot again, greeting its reappearance with a joyful ‘Da’ (there). This was therefore the complete game, disappearance and return, the first act being the only one generally observed by the onlookers, and the one untiringly repeated by the child as a game for its own sake, although the greater pleasure unquestionably attached to the second act.

is that really the two options we have, either have him on question time or allow him to trend on twitter as we lol at him?

Pretty much! There's no conceivable way for Farrage to not be in the news the week of EU elections, this whole "don't give him free publicity" thing is a red herring.

In our country we make them drink the milkshake, we make them drink it up.

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Yaxley-Lennon was all over the news - and my timeline - before he got milkshaked too. These people take great care to stay in the headlines and have plenty of powerful friends guaranteeing it, do not feed the troll works even less in real life than on ILX.

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why are they forcing that yeti to drink tea

people emptying boxes of water into the harbour in the background is a surrealist touch.

it makes you yearn for the obsessive labelling of a modern master like ben garrison, it really does

Oh so it's anti-Yankee propaganda:

A 1774 British print depicted the tarring and feathering of Boston Commissioner of Customs John Malcolm. Tarring and feathering was a ritual of humiliation and public warning that stopped just short of serious injury. Victims included British officials such as Malcolm and American merchants who violated non-importation by importing British goods. Other forms of public humiliation included daubing victims’ homes with the contents of cesspits, or actual violence against property, such as the burning of stately homes and carriages. This anti-Patriot print showed Customs Commissioner Malcolm being attacked under the Liberty Tree by several Patriots, including a leather-aproned artisan, while the Boston Tea Party occurred in the background. In fact, the Tea Party had taken place four weeks earlier.

why did they tar and feather that poor yeti

Other forms of public humiliation included daubing victims’ homes with the contents of cesspits

one for future antifash protestors to bear in mind, just sayin like

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they might have been from Hartelepool originally.

In Boston in January 1774, John Malcom argued with Bostonian George Hewes over Malcom’s rough treatment of a boy in the street. Malcom struck Hewes with his cane and fled the scene. Word of the assault spread, and Bostonians congregated at Malcom’s home, eventually dragging him outside. He was thrown into a cart and driven through the city streets. The crowd had Malcom stripped and covered first with tar and then feathers, giving him a "modern jacket." The riotous parade continued through the city, stopping periodically to demand Malcom renounce British authority, which he refused to do. The mob drove on past the Liberty Tree, where they threatened to hang Malcom. They put a rope around his neck, tied him to the gallows, and beat him with clubs. Malcom, severely injured, was eventually driven back to his home and unceremoniously rolled off the cart.

The milkshake is the modern "modern jacket".

that very scene was recreated quite brutally in the very good HBO John Adams mini-series iirc.

at least the protestors gave malcolm a lift home, a courtesy cruelly denied to farage by today's milkshake militants

you dont shit on your own doorstepper

If you can't fight 'em, become one with the funnel:

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