Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

guaranteed vote-winner, great work everyone

also, enjoying the recent spate of milkshake news but noticing some handwringing in the replies

what, I wonder, is the Venn diagram of people keen to paint Thomas Mair as definitely a lone unstable person whose political views were entirely irrelevant vs people now all typing "oh, a milkshake, look how the left/Remoaners resort to violence! where will it end?"

Thomas Mair who was pictured at a very small but visibly Britain First demo in Dewsbury town centre, months before murdering Jo Cox wasn't affiliated with any of yack Yacks friends at all, no. Throwing milk at fash is feelgood and funny as fuck. I don't think think anyone who thinks NF is a bell-end is going become sympathetically predisposed towards cos of VIOLENT MILK ATTACK in the streets.

a perfect circle?

xpost

I don't think ppl who don't really think much about NF are going to become sympathetically predisposed towards him cos of spilt milk. It just makes look like a disheveled loser.

What I meant to say was it will only engender farage sympathy among his base, who are bunch of cunts anyway.

Also connects him with Herr von Yaxlich, tars him with the same, er, milkshake.

McVey's 'Blue Collar Conservatism' seems to be about law and order, slashing the overseas aid budget and No-Deal Brexit - no sweat. Probably more honest than Amber Rudd's One Nation posturing tbf.

If dead people could carry on voting for a decade, she might make this work.

Posthumous voting, now there's an idea. If that gets brought in you could pre-register your voting intentions unto eternity, thus helping to keep culture stagnant far beyond your demise.

Don't give them ideas

Aren't there meant to be a million dead BREXIT voters? People that have died in the meantime?

Farage has 'refused' to get off his bus in Wakefield today after this morning's milkshake incident in Newcastle.

He told reporters he was staying on board as "I would be mobbed within 30 seconds". pic.twitter.com/pms2Zo5QhE

— Susie Beever (@SusieMayJourno) May 20, 2019

Nice.

loto gets thumped by guy holding egg: *crickets and actual jokes at his expense*

farage gets splatooned: OMG SIR THIS IS BAD FOR OUR DEMOCRACY YOU MUST DEFEAT FASCISTS AT THE POLLING BOOTH

Crying over spilt milkshakes.

Farage saying the referendum had been won and “not a single shot fired”, or saying he’d take up a rifle if Brexit wasn’t delivered - enough to keep him on the BBC & getting free publicity for existing.

Some chucks a delicious drink at him: an absolute outrage and very real slippery slope

It's possible I'm in an echo chamber but it's been mostly filled with the sound of people pissing themselves laughing.

Tony Blair’s not having it

Borad lawyers, can he actually press charges American style or is that a decision that can only be made by the CPS?

Obviously if it’s a private prosecution, hope the judge awards a quid’s damages or dry-cleaning costs to Farage and £5.50 to the dude to replace the thrown shake.

Soubz not having it either, if you wanted further evidence that this is a good not bad phenomena.

I'd like to throw a £5 doner his way.

Anna Soubry would be well pleased if someone threw a kegger cup full of G&T at her face.

streetings not having it. nor is lineker. I’m sure QC twitter have shat the bed too

If all these peeps aren't having it we might yet get a Spiked "milkshakes are good actually" piece

Straight out the Trump playbook. Farage is doing to C4 News what Trump does to CNN. The point is to undermine truth itself, make people believe nothing & go with instinct. And everyone’s in a tis about a milkshake. https://t.co/ge9JptOh8H

— Tom Kibasi (@TomKibasi) May 20, 2019

otm. see also: farage’s performance on BBC recently which was a masterclass in getting your message across, setting his party up as insurgents against the establishment elite all while liberal twitter crows about him getting owned

Not while the possibility of Claire Fox being milkshaked exists, an attack on one member of the mind-meld is an attack on all members. (xp)

Claire Fox thinks milkshakes are a challenge to the vegan hegemony

I think we’ve had a frozen coke or two dumped over the fash in Australia which makes for a good vegan option. Although better to get one of the off brand ones for ethical reasons or frozen pink or green Fanta for visual effect.

warm lucozade obv would cure him of everything so not that

Alright, so is the Farage amiable bloke mask slipping? Or is it a new persona? For such a calculated person it seems unlikely that he'd let the mask slip, so what gives?

There's definitely a calculated change in his approach. As you say, much less amiable and more aggressive, bullying and mocking - I wonder if his stint on talk radio has had an effect, apart from the blatant aping of Trump that is, though I think Salvini is probably a greater role model. As with Salvini, the strutting disdain for critics and opponents has one obvious source in Italian 20th century history.

His current polling is probably at the highest it ever will be and being a one-issue party means the odds are the bubble will pop agin at some point soon - so why bother cultivating a persona? And surviving the plane crash and yesterday's failed assassination attempt has given him a hitleresque messianic complex.

if I have to see this take u do too

Symbolic assassination attempts may not be "violent" any more than jokes about attempted rape are "violent" - but a healthy political culture allows no room for either. https://t.co/2UbIId1QHe

— David Frum (@davidfrum) May 20, 2019

I think it has to be calculated too, rather than him being unable to keep up the amiable act. I guess the thinking is to mobilize and consolidate the support he does have rather than attempt to get more support. It makes sense as playing to base is more effective than appealing to 'swing voters' that only exist in the imaginations of liberal media. Still seems a risky strategy, changing a winning team, but its bold - can play up a character arc, "we've been betrayed so badly even amiable Nigel has had enough"

he doesn’t want to look like a smoothie

https://giphy.com/gifs/ussoccer-goal-celebration-3o7bu2D938PkrKrcYw

hah!

I can't remember what the experts were predicting for his party, but the surge in the both the MEP/Westminster polls must be much better than everyone (including Farage) were expecting. But I say this as a non-expert who completely underestimated his new party as a non-threatening joke from the off.

I think he's taken nakh's old Nigel Farage Is A Fucking Hero dn seriously. He's definitely decided to play up the personality cult aspects of his appeal.

sorry if i'm missing something but by my lights the "nasty" side of Farage has always been the core of his appeal. anyone can get a pint and laugh with the grannies - but it was only Farage who you knew, underneath it all, wouldn't flinch if these terrible times required us to put people in concentration camps. it's the same as the appeal of the Daily Mail. an outward show of mittel-England jocularity but no mistaking the cold steel beneath it.

Still has the easiest gig in politics so the strategy is back of a beermat.

as soon as he starts making unguarded comments about the type of policies he would support from beyond the single issue Brexit Betrayed momentum he's built up, then only the most committed idiots are going to stick with him, which isn't enough for the party to be little more than a right wing pressure group, imo.

i'd be a bit concerned that his party isn't going to go away, tbh. not least because brexit isn't looking like it's going away anytime soon. i guess we don't know if they can repeat this popularity in a general election but it seems possible at least. i have to say i'm starting to think any form of deal to be able to say 'we have left the eu', asap, seems quite important for the uk at the moment. i fully understand why labour won't vote for the current deal, but i sometimes think they should fall on their sword for the sake of the country and back themselves to get elected on their policies anyway. it does sort of let the tories off the hook but it seems like the public are relatively prepared to give them a kicking in the polls anyway. and the things people like about labour are not brexit-related. far from it.

i've been on doorsteps the last few weeks in solidly Labour Newham and a lot of people apparently feel Corbyn isn't being "honest" about what he wants re: Brexit (and one guy was furious about Corbyn's comment from like 3 years ago about how he wouldn't launch a nuclear strike lol)

pretty amazing that Cameron figured he'd snuff out the UKIP threat once and for all, and now appears to have ensured its rampant saliency for years to come

(for "UKIP" feel free to substitute whatever right-wing Faragist stabbed-in-back party of ethno-fantasists you want)

#milkshakegate Victorians were inveterate missile-throwers. Most notably, Victorians often threw dead cats - that's right, DEAD CATS - at politicians/during riots. Look closely at this contemporary drawing of Chartist rioting, and you can spot one flying through the air: pic.twitter.com/ePOjH8NK0i

— Victorian Election Violence UK (@VictorianEV_UK) May 21, 2019

some historical perspective on recent events.

Live cats would be even more effective, I feel.

Agreed.

How did they go about acquiring cat corpses, I wonder? I imagine felines weren’t as beloved back then as they are today.

Corpses of every description were ten a penny back in those days.