Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

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I saw that film last week, so I could contrast with the new Mary Harron one — it's bad, and not even in a MST3k way. It's really just an excuse to film the murder itself, which they replay about three times, including an "alternate reality" where they manage to kill off the Manson family and escape. Duff spends the whole film wide-eyed and at least once a scene someone has to mention she's pregnant, or she touches her belly. It doesn't even look particularly period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELeMaP8EPAA

New Trailer.

Tarantino/Pitt/Dicaprio interview as well.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a27458589/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-leonardo-dicaprio-brad-pitt-quentin-tarantino-interview/

That's a great roundtable. Suddenly I'm stoked for this picture.

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Yeah, me too. It starts off feeling kinda douchey imo, but they take the conversation to some interesting places. I'm definitely cautiously optimistic.

Early Cannes reactions:

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-first-reactions-quentin-tarantino-1203222562/

Gah, I was not expecting to be excited, since I hated his last two, but ... count me in. Now to go several months spoiler free ...

I remember getting a copy of the Pulp Fiction script months before it came out. I didn't read it, but I did look at one page and saw the word "chainsaw." Then that sucker got given to someone else, post haste.

the con goes on

I guess if you call the marketing a con? Because for all the movies I haven't liked, Tarantino has still made 3 or 4 or 5 or 4.5 I love, which is more good movies than most directors make. And at the least I think he is a good *director*, so I always like *watching* his movies even if I don't like the acting or script or whatever.

It starts off feeling kinda douchey

I thought at first this was referring to the trailer, and I was like, wait, but it ends kinda douchey too

morbs otm

https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/reviews-recommendations/once-upon-time-hollywood-quentin-tarantino-1960s-golden-age-meta-movie-charles-manson-sharon-tate-murders?fbclid=IwAR0u4IXsvkkwQlcqRV6fd1hFV7b28seLm_tODBB-JPqAg_9Ya-V1leU3J9k

this movie is totally going to end with leo killing manson and saving the day, right?

I figure it's gonna be something like that, though I think it's gonna be Sharon Tate that ends up killing Manson somehow. Hopefully Tarentino put a bit of thought into this than I did though.

weird that i feel very much okay with tarantino killing hitler in his wwii revenge picture but very much not okay at the prospect of him 'saving' sharon tate in this one

same

I'm gonna ask my Cannes contact to spoil it for me

They're gonna break into the wrong house and kill DiCaprio and Pitt.

No genuine spoilers on this thread, please.

simon pls inbox me full and detailed spoilers kthxbye

MANSON KILLS DAENERYS & IRON MAN.

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Anyway, A.A. Dowd at The AV Club gives it a B+ fwiw

https://film.avclub.com/quentin-tarantino-fights-the-future-in-his-funky-meand-1834944301

Is the word "Baggy" a new film crit plaything? Somebody over on CriterionForum collected up a number of tweets re:OUATIH and it appeared in like 3/4 of them.

I remember it being used to describe his last 2 movies

It's gotta be a loose fit.

I think it's gonna be Sharon Tate that ends up killing Manson somehow

Smothering him to death with her gigantic, naked feet, of course.

The ending to Inglorious Basterds was an entertaining twist. Django was just dumb. If he's going for some kind of wish fulfillment fix for the Manson murders, I'll be pretty disappointed.

Movie looks cool though, so I'm not ready to abandon hope.

Manson gets that record deal, no murders.

At the behest of a desperate Dennis Wilson, Mike Love kills the entire Manson family.

At the behest of a desperate Dennis Wilson, Mike Love has his photograph taken with the entire Manson family, 45 years later it is posted on a thread on the ILX message board.

alright im outta here until July

If, as widely guessed, Brad Pitt prevents the murders in a blaze of bloody glory, that will be an Inglourious Bastards-derived joke come to fully unimagined life.

Sharon Tate lives, plays Jackie Brown in an universally acclaimed comeback in 1997.

fond of this L'boxd review

https://letterboxd.com/papabear9/film/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/

a nearly comatose-able experience directed savegly

would make a great blurb for the poster

Anyone who wants full spoilers: go digging in the Wiki entry's edit history.

OK, that's officially even worse than anything I would have come up with.

lol my reaction as well

yup

Movie looks cool though

iirc QT works with a good cinematographer. don't let that fool you.

I truly can’t think of a dumber ending, or one that plays to his critics more. Is there a German word for the paradoxical feeling of actually being surprised at how lazily predictable something ends up being?

And when Sharon Tate, spared a grisly end by Bruce Lee's single-handed dispatch of her would-be assailants, finally did give birth, her son grew up to be famous in his own right. His name? Quentin Tarantino. And that's the rest of the story. Good day!

(If I did guess the ending, I swear it was a total accident and I apologize, but if it's actually that stupid then you should probably also demand an apology from QT himself.)

I approve of your Paul Harvey impression, could use more ellipses though

oh god there’s gonna be so many fucking thinkpieces about this

stinkpieces

Video store boy makes another film. What a grifter.