Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

this seems like probably very good news:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/16/part-privatisation-probation-sevices-to-be-reversed-offender-management-nationalised-chris-grayling

fucking disgraceful that it was outsourced to the private sector in the first place, better news will be when Grayling decides to put his fucking stupid bald dome into the jaws of a starving komodo.

I am trying think of a commercial model where probation services are run to make a profit that isn't either unworkable or pure evil, but these demented ideologues didn't even give this a second thought.

i blame all those probation officers leaving for fancy jobs as poet laureate. 8)

I wouldn't expect any better from a Marsdenite! I can still remember hearing him on the radio while he was still working in probation services.

Hearty Friday morning lol

A dishonest & cowardly piece. He tries his best to appear to say one thing but read it carefully & he is saying another i.e. HIS rejection of the Labour party under Blair is morally superior to YOUR rejection of the party under Corbyn. https://t.co/LzPEnZKkoF

— Steven Fielding (@PolProfSteve) May 17, 2019

putting the Friday Butthurt into FBPE...

I wrote to Tony Benn around that time too :D

Re: ppl accusing G Younge of middle class self-indulgence for taking a moral stance. In the recent D Edgerton book he makes the point that notionally leftish people had become so obsessed with getting the tories out, they became completely blind to the tory policies of Blair, even Major was blushing and very wary of PFI'ing the fuck out of the NHS.

Quite enjoying the "neither Corbyn nor Blair" concern trolling from people who are definitely socialists just not that kind of socialist tho

Don't get me wrong this has never been about personality cults but i don't see much "love Momentum hate Corbs" out there

PolProfSteve and chums just want a more amenable dictatorship basically

but Yvette Cooper is the real opposition says I ... an avowed socialist!

Tho tbh if you can't see a moral distinction between the privatisation of Iraq and Brexit well gosh here we are

Is Corbyn’s fudge on Brexit worse than Blair’s certainty about invading Iraq?

big question there!

Can easily see Corbyn's fudge on Brexit leading to a million plus deaths so idk this is 50/50 i think

I am 100 times more angry about Brexit than war in Iraq #shockhorror

— There is no sensible Brexit #fbpe 🏳️‍🌈 🇪🇺🇬🇧 (@iggynowa) May 17, 2019

Just swill this one round your mouth a bit

that blue face-paint is clearly causing brain damage in some people.

I'm not sure death toll is the metric you want - how many people did the financial crash kill?

The crucial differences are a) one of them's a war and b) one of them was government policy vs some shit chatted by a party in opposition.

Happy to apportion some blame for the financial crash to the Blair government too tbf

*shocked face*

Labour has pulled out of cross-party Brexit talks, with Jeremy Corbyn writing to Theresa May to say that a lack of progress and government instability means the discussions “have now gone as far as they can”.

In a letter to the prime minister, released on Friday, the Labour leader said the talks, designed to find a compromise Brexit plan, had taken place in good faith on both sides and had been “detailed [and] constructive”.

“However, it has become clear that, while there are some areas where compromise has been possible, we have been unable to bridge important policy gaps between us.

“Even more crucially, the increasing weakness and instability of your government means there cannot be confidence in securing whatever might be agreed between us.”

Agree with you 100%, none of this is EU fault and EU is not perfect but Brexit didn’t start in England, it started in Washington, Moscow and Beijing and Lexit Labour is a part of this plot. It should be abandoned and punish at the polls until current front bench is obliterated

— There is no sensible Brexit #fbpe 🏳️‍🌈 🇪🇺🇬🇧 (@iggynowa) May 17, 2019

This guy is fun at parties

If only 'austerity kills ppl' was used to attack austerity policies more often.

Chatting shit (which is a big part of what an opposition does) Vs doing shit.

The hellish last decade and a half in Iraq vs brexit, what metric puts them in the same ballpark?

xp Yeah, I agree on both points, I think!

So long Brexit Party. It was...not nice knowing you! #hacktivism #subvertising #adbusting #culturejamming pic.twitter.com/esqJxDT71B

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) May 17, 2019

also led by donkies have taken down their Widdecrumb billboard, because they were possibly amplifying her homophobia to the Farage base rather than ridiculing her.

So long Brexit Party. It was...not nice knowing you! #hacktivism #subvertising #adbusting #culturejamming pic.twitter.com/esqJxDT71B

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) May 17, 2019

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xp Once is bad enough!

I lolled.

I know - it's serious...

Quite enjoying the "neither Corbyn nor Blair" concern trolling from people who are definitely socialists just not that kind of socialist tho

Oh the Actually-I'm-Left-Of-Centrist Dad is definitely a thing - a lot of those people were consistently critical of Blair and New Labour for being too right-wing, voted LibDem after the Iraq War and then went back post-2010, but still get a fit of the vapours about Corbyn.

It does feel a bit like Simon Hedges has dropped the kayfabe too much recently, still funny though.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51KBQG80KML._SY355_.jpg

That was my point, obv

Not sure how many of the ILX kids would have got the reference. Young people these days.

Quite enjoying the "neither Corbyn nor Blair" concern trolling from people who are definitely socialists just not that kind of socialist tho

Oh the Actually-I'm-Left-Of-Centrist Dad is definitely a thing - a lot of those people were consistently critical of Blair and New Labour for being too right-wing, voted LibDem after the Iraq War and then went back post-2010, but still get a fit of the vapours about Corbyn.

― Matt DC, Friday, May 17, 2019 8:26 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark

this is my actual da

He voted Lib Dem? WTF?

in 2005 mainly because of the iraq war (the release of general pinochet by jack straw in 2000 alone wasn't enough to stop him voting labour in 2001)

but i imagine it was a close run thing

That was my dad but he died before the Corbynocracy and where he still alive he'd probably be still explaining to me why it was the wrong socialism, this nonsense dies hard

EXCLUSIVE: ITV News has been passed the largest dossier of claims about Islamophobia in the Conservative Party to date. 110 people claiming to be members, posting comments about a Muslim "infestation", "cult" and "takeover". Full details: https://t.co/TohdiTC7UU

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) May 17, 2019

can't wait for the media blitz on this

ben goldsmith was openly calling islamophobia a nonsense and saying sayeeda warsi was at it just yesterday on twitter

Former Conservative co-Chair @SayeedaWarsi is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, working alongside some of the most illiberal, unpleasant people in Britain to silence any attempt by mainstream Muslims (such as @MaajidNawaz) or anyone else to question the Islamist ideology. https://t.co/4g9dKu9Qlt

— Ben Goldsmith (@BenGoldsmith) May 16, 2019

Warsi probably is an arsehole tbf, but she's often very correct on tory Islamophobia and has been sidelined by the party for showing some conviction.

"In a statement, a Conservative Party spokesperson said: "A substantial number of these people are not members."

They haven't got a clue about how many living/dead people they have still paying the membership dues apparently - when it suits them. Nothing to do with embarrassment (cos they are impervious to it) about dwindling membership, otherwise their current bunch of leadership contenders would have already caused them to die of it.

Police Scotland imposing intelligence-led milkshake bans is a new one 😳 https://t.co/jQiYeObfjO

— Liam. (@parcelorogues) May 17, 2019

lol, police don't like seeing milkshakes getting thrown at fellow fash scum.

So much for the lactose tolerant left

*citizen kane clap*

hah!