I'm sure she can be a fascist, but I can also tell when someone is reading from a script they didn't write.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:36 (seven years ago)
how?
― the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:40 (seven years ago)
that seems like a cool talent to have, not one i possess
isn’t the right’s standard of eloquence ben shapiro? like...
― maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:42 (seven years ago)
Is it their XX chromosomes that give it away
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:42 (seven years ago)
i dunno, intimating that a child fascist youtuber might be being directed by adults is not necessarily sexist to me? i would presume the same if we were talking about a boy also?
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:44 (seven years ago)
the fact that she sounds like she is saying a lot of these words for the first time in her life is sort of a giveaway
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:45 (seven years ago)
the way there's an edit after every flowery, overstuffed line
― husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:45 (seven years ago)
i get it and maybe, perhaps probably, it's true. but i can assume if there are precocious kids who can craft compelling arguments about global warming and tolerance and what not then the opposite side must have those types as well, and these MAGA ppl sometimes start early and the virulence doesn't necessarily first emerge when they hit driver's license age.
― omar little, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:47 (seven years ago)
has anybody here ever heard kids reading from the bible at church
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:52 (seven years ago)
I mean, just listen to her. This is a child reading from a script. Who even bought her the prison clothes? https://youtu.be/iqw_Zo49IPY
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:55 (seven years ago)
Some people even think this girl is scripted too...
https://youtu.be/ulf82uRT3bA
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:58 (seven years ago)
Could be her own script tbf.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:59 (seven years ago)
lol she’s obviously reading from a script but there’s no indication someone wrote it for her and she speaks w/ clarity, fluency and intent that suggests that she understands it entirely
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:02 (seven years ago)
says right there on the video
Written by SophCo-written by Vaporub Boy
― the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:03 (seven years ago)
― frogbs
this was not my impression but i suppose impressions are subjective
Sometimes ppl know words from reading that they’ve never heard spoken aloud
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:07 (seven years ago)
Especially at that age.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:08 (seven years ago)
even at my age (40s)
― the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:09 (seven years ago)
At any age tbh.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (seven years ago)
Can confirm (30s). Just likelier at such a young age, is all.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (seven years ago)
It seems like she understands what she is saying and I bet she shares those views and—maybe more significantly—that weird meme sensibility
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:11 (seven years ago)
14 is maybe old enough to form and articulate hot takes such as these, but she looks 10
― husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:13 (seven years ago)
Yeah but she is 14
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:15 (seven years ago)
just sayin
― husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:16 (seven years ago)
The 'imprisoned' girl strikes me as genuine, in that she seems like a bright kid who felt totally estranged from her peers in school, probably was teased, bullied and ostracized, with too little support from teachers or counselors. Chances are good her parents encouraged her to respond combatively and righteously, because this was their own method of coping with opposition, thus escalating the whole dynamic until it reached the place seen in her video. btw, she looks 14 to me.
Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:24 (seven years ago)
― A is for (Aimless)
but one never really knows, does one? all this talk of "owning" and "destroying" by people who don't seem to have a firm grasp on the difference between fantasy and reality at the best of times...
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:35 (seven years ago)
The bile, black and white thinking, and the way that e.g. the "women are cool" video weirdly drifts between grand evolutionary psych pronouncements and bitter references to high school relationships and social dynamics do seem pretty credibly adolescent to me. Will admit that I would probably be less scandalized (and also less sympathetic) if she were a boy bc boys are obv monsters.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:39 (seven years ago)
that article was pretty terrible. I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us
― rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:41 (seven years ago)
alex jones seems pretty credibly adolescent to me!
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:49 (seven years ago)
I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us
She didn't pick up this shtick in a vacuum and I guarantee you she'll inspire more heinous content (and worse) in the near future if she keeps or expands her audience base over time.
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:51 (seven years ago)
There's been lots of good reporting on YouTube's complete fucked-upness (like the Bloomberg piece that's linked in the article), but this one doesn't tell us anything new. I probably wouldn't care if it weren't being presented as news, but since it is, this is borderline malpractice imo:
"Indeed, one of Soph’s messages seems to be that in a world where the adults who have grown rich through technology took the implications of that technology seriously, she wouldn’t exist. She’s a problem, she seems to be saying, of YouTube’s own making."
I get that the existence of this person is disturbing, but that doesn't make this a good article nor does it excuse sending what I assume is a shitload of traffic her way.
― rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:03 (seven years ago)
I mean I def agree that the direct linking and "no, seriously, watch it" demand was not helpful
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:08 (seven years ago)
The framing was the way a liberal media org can use compelling content that is politically off brand without owning it themselves
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)
She debates adults on the left with eloquence and she laughs nonchalantly at systems of power. When I asked Soph why she relies so heavily on irony, her reply was typically curt: “the current paradigm does not deserve to be taken seriously.”
Curt. Also, facile and without content. This is just the usual adolescent scorn and hubris, but attached to a larger vocabulary and a more accomplished mimicry of maturity. All those youtube views are going to reinforce her like crazy and tend to freeze her into this persona far into adulthood. I would not want to be her, no matter how many followers she gathers or how much money she harvests off this notoriety.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:13 (seven years ago)
Hate to see someone frozen in adulthood with merely a high vocabulary and facile opinions
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:15 (seven years ago)
Kind of like seeing the small town high school quarterback who led his team to the state 4A championship, never leaves town, and rests on his laurels.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:21 (seven years ago)
she’s pretty much lil tay with extra fascism
― maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:46 (seven years ago)
Where did this Imam Tawhidi grifter pop up from?
"the left is more violent than even Isis" lol
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:48 (seven years ago)
odds are high that "the left" being referenced in that quote is some shit like Mao's Revolutionary Guard from 50 years ago, before almost every member of ISIS was born.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:54 (seven years ago)
Off-topic, I made this, not sure what do do with it (Dankula has blocked me already) so I'm putting it here.
https://i.imgur.com/a4PXAMU.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:28 (seven years ago)
Given that he was telling his interviewer he was worried for her safety because "the left is more violent than even Isis" this seems unlikely!
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:54 (seven years ago)
Ah, then he must be referring to the imaginary "left" that lives in his mind alongside the dancing elves.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:23 (seven years ago)
careful now, some of them have heavy milkshakery
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:35 (seven years ago)
A group of Mennonites showing up to protest the Klan is the most Ohio shit in the entire world and I'm loving it https://t.co/fb336pnNhH— Neverwinter DSA Co-Chair (@thepoeticgopher) May 25, 2019
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:17 (seven years ago)
Breitbart, Ben Shapiro "bridged the gap" between Fox News and Stormfront for this pair of white supremacist terrorists.That's the purpose the alt-right was created to serve, y'all. It's literally the reason they exist. pic.twitter.com/NjXY0ZSRKP— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) May 27, 2019
Twitter thread charting the radicalization of a white nationalist via Facebook likes
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 07:08 (seven years ago)
I hear that Ben Shapiro isn't considered alt-right by people in the alt-right because he's Jewish.
― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 09:57 (seven years ago)
he may not consider himself alt-right, but he is alt-right adjacent
― be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 11:43 (seven years ago)
It's good that alt right types are engaging in sectarianism and authenticity arguments, but I don't think the rest of us need bother to distinguish.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:13 (seven years ago)
These stupid labels. He may not be their boyfriend but they sure are seeing a lot of each other.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:31 (seven years ago)