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might get in the way of his wedding plans to an american youtuber

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/apr/27/kootenai-county-gop-urges-feds-to-let-austrian-nat/

goole, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link

where are you guys on wearing new balance shoes? do people still associate them with the alt right?

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't assume for the briefest moment someone wearing NB was trying to make a statement

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

There are a lot of clearer tells anyway imo

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

i know it's useless and nearly completely unhelpful to even mention but i sometimes get terrified over this shit

dyl, Thursday, 16 May 2019 03:05 (five years ago) link

some young homeless tweaker dudes once fucked with me downtown late at night, waving a knife around, saying only cops wore NB's. the more you know!

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link

Soph uploaded a 12-minute video in which she seemed to be daring the platform to suspend her, knowing full well that it wouldn’t.

“Susan, I’ve known your address since last summer,” Soph said, directly addressing YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki. “I’ve got a Luger and a mitochondrial disease. I don’t care if I live. Why should I care if you live or your children? I just called an Uber. You’ve got about seven minutes to draft up a will. ... I’m coming for you, and it ain’t gonna be pretty.”

I wonder if Soph is serious about having a mitochondrial disease. (While the rest of the threat seems obv facetious, this seems like a pretty specific thing to make up.) Mito is a brutal thing to deal with for an adult; I can only imagine that knowing you have this as a young teenager could make you ... angry enough to spew hate speech on Youtube.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 May 2019 03:52 (five years ago) link

This is some really, really scary shit.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/youtubes-newest-far-right-foul-mouthed-red-pilling-star-is

― Simon H., Monday, 13 May 2019 21:46 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the comments are the scariest part tbh

imago, Thursday, 16 May 2019 06:58 (five years ago) link

Yeah those comments are something. People posting white nationalist ideas seemingly under their public facebook profiles.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link

But also this kid is pretty scary. A mind completely formed by memes.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link

maybe the forces of light need to make it so that their tone is cool, pointed and erudite rather than hectoring? or am i turning into angela nagle here

imago, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link

these fuckers need to be taken apart, not moaned at

imago, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

as for the kid...well we need other youtubers bringing the anti-establishment light, who are cooler and funnier than her, is the bottom line

imago, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

we need Young Contrapoints

imago, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link

Is this irony fascism stuff the worst youth subculture in america history?

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

we need fewer people telling us what "we need"

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link

Watched a couple of her videos and she is clearly performing a script someone else has written, and it basically states as much in the buzzfeed article. So would file this as a shitty new strategy rather than a generational crisis.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link

For the online right, Soph is hailed as a child prodigy. She debates adults on the left with eloquence and she laughs nonchalantly at systems of power. When I asked Soph why she relies so heavily on irony, her reply was typically curt: “the current paradigm does not deserve to be taken seriously.”

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

Idk why i posted that. The role of “irony” with these people is weird. It’s really just contrarianism and shock value. It seems like it would burn itself out but it’s one of the most viral kinds of content seemingly

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

like, ok, sorry, rant time

we need, individually, collectively, to stay alive to the greatest extent possible. a lot of shit is fucked up right now, a lot of things are broken, and we're not going to be able to fix them now, or in 2020. it's going to take time, every day there's a new outrage, something sickening, depressing, something bad enough to make people question their will to live.

i had a lot of trouble when i started meditating and the advice was to "live in the moment", because the moment is, really, uniquely terrible. i'd rather be anywhere but here, politically speaking. but it still, in some weird way, gives me a sense of perspective. the world is a catastrophe, but that doesn't mean i have to catastrophize, or benefit from catastrophizing.

the best i can do is try and be myself, try and be kind, and take care of myself and those i care most about, and let others bear responsibility for whatever they choose to do. however that winds up playing out is outside my control.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
Posted: May 16, 2019 at 12:57:27 PM
Watched a couple of her videos and she is clearly performing a script someone else has written, and it basically states as much in the buzzfeed article. So would file this as a shitty new strategy rather than a generational crisis.


Think ppl would be less scandalized by her and less likely to suggest she’s reading off someone else’s work if she were a young man and not a young woman but guess what young women can be fascists too.

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link

she could be diana mitford or she could be a victim of child abuse (or, you know, both)

youtube opens up a whole new wealth of opportunities for people who want to abuse their children for vicarious fame

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link

I'm sure she can be a fascist, but I can also tell when someone is reading from a script they didn't write.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

how?

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

that seems like a cool talent to have, not one i possess

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

isn’t the right’s standard of eloquence ben shapiro? like...

maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

Is it their XX chromosomes that give it away

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

i dunno, intimating that a child fascist youtuber might be being directed by adults is not necessarily sexist to me? i would presume the same if we were talking about a boy also?

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

the fact that she sounds like she is saying a lot of these words for the first time in her life is sort of a giveaway

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

the way there's an edit after every flowery, overstuffed line

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

i get it and maybe, perhaps probably, it's true. but i can assume if there are precocious kids who can craft compelling arguments about global warming and tolerance and what not then the opposite side must have those types as well, and these MAGA ppl sometimes start early and the virulence doesn't necessarily first emerge when they hit driver's license age.

omar little, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

has anybody here ever heard kids reading from the bible at church

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

I mean, just listen to her. This is a child reading from a script. Who even bought her the prison clothes?

https://youtu.be/iqw_Zo49IPY

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

Some people even think this girl is scripted too...

https://youtu.be/ulf82uRT3bA

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link

Could be her own script tbf.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

lol she’s obviously reading from a script but there’s no indication someone wrote it for her and she speaks w/ clarity, fluency and intent that suggests that she understands it entirely

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

says right there on the video

Written by Soph
Co-written by Vaporub Boy

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

the fact that she sounds like she is saying a lot of these words for the first time in her life is sort of a giveaway

― frogbs

this was not my impression but i suppose impressions are subjective

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

Sometimes ppl know words from reading that they’ve never heard spoken aloud

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

Especially at that age.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

even at my age (40s)

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

At any age tbh.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

Can confirm (30s). Just likelier at such a young age, is all.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

It seems like she understands what she is saying and I bet she shares those views and—maybe more significantly—that weird meme sensibility

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

14 is maybe old enough to form and articulate hot takes such as these, but she looks 10

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

Yeah but she is 14

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

just sayin

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link

The 'imprisoned' girl strikes me as genuine, in that she seems like a bright kid who felt totally estranged from her peers in school, probably was teased, bullied and ostracized, with too little support from teachers or counselors. Chances are good her parents encouraged her to respond combatively and righteously, because this was their own method of coping with opposition, thus escalating the whole dynamic until it reached the place seen in her video. btw, she looks 14 to me.

Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.

― A is for (Aimless)

but one never really knows, does one? all this talk of "owning" and "destroying" by people who don't seem to have a firm grasp on the difference between fantasy and reality at the best of times...

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

The bile, black and white thinking, and the way that e.g. the "women are cool" video weirdly drifts between grand evolutionary psych pronouncements and bitter references to high school relationships and social dynamics do seem pretty credibly adolescent to me. Will admit that I would probably be less scandalized (and also less sympathetic) if she were a boy bc boys are obv monsters.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link


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