i dunno, our brave boys have some form in extrajudicially executing christians too tbf
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:30 (five years ago) link
"extracurricular tomfoolery" = killing Iraqi civilians 'fer the lark.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:33 (five years ago) link
xp yes but NI is to be exempt from
wait a sec
non-voters, thats it.
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:37 (five years ago) link
Pretty sure that, for the Johnny Mercers of this world, this is mostly about NI. After all, Iraqis Afghans, the Irish, what's the difference?
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 09:11 (five years ago) link
... as if on cue,
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/15/northern-ireland-troubles-soldiers-should-be-given-amnesty-says-mordaunt
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link
Don't know if it's just me, but when I read a front page banner article called "Peterborough prepares for byelection that could elect first Brexit party MP" I want to know something about this fuck who is about to be elected, not yet another Brexitland safari. They don't even mention his name.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/02/peterborough-prepares-for-byelection-that-could-see-first-brexit-party-mp
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
Guardian's deputy editor @paul__johnson joined state censorship D-Notice committee (run by MOD) after Snowden revelations in sop to British spooks. In board minutes, they thank him for being "instrumental in re-establishing links" between UK mil/intel and Guardian. Explains a lot pic.twitter.com/kN27T0QoMm— Matt Kennard (@DCKennard) June 11, 2019
― ogmor, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link
when they become subservient bootlickers to the secret services it can't be called the 4th estate anymore, it smells like the turd estate if anything.
― calzino, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link
Look I know the title of this thread is rhetorical. But still. Still!
Absolutely unbelievable pic.twitter.com/WKHtcPkuao— Running Dog (@benton_dan) June 15, 2019
― stress tweeting (gyac), Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link
god bless our traditionally unbiased gutter press... grrr.. well until the last few weeks damn them!
― calzino, Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link
The article itself isn't as egregiously bad as that tweet makes it out to be:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/15/tory-leadership-boris-johnson-westminster-media
― pomenitul, Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link
Ha. Wrote this Guardian preview in a kind of blind fury before emailing it off; thoroughly expecting them to ask me to tone it down. They didn't change a word. Good on 'em. pic.twitter.com/IF0g1FVJl9— Ali Catterall (@AliCatterall) June 15, 2019
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 15 June 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
There's a columnist for Guardian Australia, Brigid Delaney, whose every fucking column is "I don't understand how basic human interaction works and also I did something massively stupid with obvious catastrophic consequences and wah poor me", and even just seeing the titles of her pieces are enough to drive my up the fucking wall.
― And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Monday, 17 June 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link
Brigid Delaney was the 'Tiny Train World' woman also
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 17 June 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Saturday, 15 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
You may (rightly) take issue with her ridiculous vision of the past, but the whole point of her piece is that it is absurd to assume the UK is utterly foreign to the kinds of abuses we routinely attribute to 'other', less 'civilised' countries, so it is less awful than what its title implies, yes.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link
we they routinely attribute to 'other', less 'civilised' countries...
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
It also has rhetorical value: the average reader is likelier to accept this argument than if the article started with a sentence such as 'Britain has always been a racist, genocidal empire'.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link
I think that's exactly what the subtitle implies ?
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link
also there is no average reader
Everything is awful and immoral, sorry.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
but the whole point of her piece is that it is absurd to assume the UK is utterly foreign to the kinds of abuses we routinely attribute to 'other', less 'civilised' countries, so it is less awful than what its title implies, yes.
Who is she disabusing of this assumption? Even Guardian readers are aware of how much the media is owned by the oligarchy and publish points that are in their interest. People saying 'we aren;t as bad as Italy' isn't as much of a thing.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link
well there is the small matter of Murdoch picking our PM's for the last 4 decades as well!
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link
afaik there is no morality just a screaming mass of pure being
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link
You forgot nothingness.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
I am a parmenidean on this point
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link
There's nothing quite like something.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link
As ever, yes.
Why is it so hard for Labour to find a woman for its inner circle? | Suzanne Moore https://t.co/zz0n725qMg— Guardian politics (@GdnPolitics) June 17, 2019
― stress tweeting (gyac), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
Emily Thornberry couldn’t be called on to do PMQs as she made the terrible faux pas of telling the truth about the European elections
erm yeah whatever.. wasn't her stand in Rebecca Long-Bailey you fucking weapon!
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
She’s done a massive flounce after being ratioed to Hell and back by annoyed women of colour, some of whom are pointing out that she mustered 258 votes when she tried to challenge Diane Abbott as an independent PPC in 2010.
― suzy, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
This whole thing is shameful:
Disgusting to see @Haroon_Siddique and @jimwaterson laundering a flagrantly dishonest right wing hit job on Aman here. The actual story is "professional smear merchant attacks left winger", but Guido doesn't even get a mentionhttps://t.co/tZHZMpK1YD— Sam 🌹 (@samfoster99) June 19, 2019
Labour activist asks question in the BBC Tory leadership debate
Guido Fawkes screenshots a tweet of his making fun of Candice Owen’s position on Hitler, misrepresenting it as his own view by cropping the context
Guardian, Independent and BBC report ‘controversy ensuing over tweets’ and ‘claims the tweet was a parody’, presenting his as contested, while removing any mention of Fawkes
Labour activist is suspended from job.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 20 June 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link
Solomon Hughes has a good thread on this clusterfuck
(1) For some years , UK Liberal media have warned reckless, bullying authoritarian politicians and their supporter mob will attack the press ,using smear stories. Now it is actually happening, with the BBC and Aman Thakar, and much of the same media are.....joining in— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) June 20, 2019
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 20 June 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
a new low for the graun. I wasn't shocked that they were GCHQ bootlickers, but they seem to be breaking new ground here.
― calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link
I’m really surprised that Leigh Day gave into the narrative and suspended this guy (for those who don’t know, they’re a reliable lefty practice of the sort that activists write on their arms in case they get caught in a kettle at demos).
― suzy, Thursday, 20 June 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link
Hopefully he will be reinstated and be able pursue legal action.
Guido is fully integrated into the UK media ecosystem. Fully collaborating with the right-wing media as well as the liberal media that doesn't give a shit if a Corbynite is rinsed.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
is the times worse than it used to be? genuine question - I have no sense of whether or has always been this utterly deranged. it is fully a rag at this point, yet despite this is still read by Serious People
― ||||||||, Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
Yes, it’s much, much worse than it was. Yes, it’s still widely read by Serious People.
Going back six or seven years, the Sunday Times had the stronger hard-right edge to it and The Times was still fairly centre-right Cameronite on most stuff. Today they’re both as nuts as the Mail.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/03/labour-mp-faces-deselection-threat-over-chris-williamson-criticism-ellie-reeves
A pregnant Labour MP is facing the threat of deselection after she signed a statement criticising her party’s decision to readmit Chris Williamson.
Shocking! Shameful! Etc.
Now, the constituency Labour party chairman in her Lewisham West and Penge constituency, John Clark, has reportedly received an email from a member who has requested a motion of no confidence in Reeves, who has been MP for the south-east London seat since 2017.
Such a motion would not be able to begin the re-selection process, given that a trigger ballot can only be forced if the move has the support of a third of local party branches or affiliated trade union branches.It is understood the move would not take place in any case while an MP is on maternity leave.
It is understood the move would not take place in any case while an MP is on maternity leave.
So, in short, one person is reported to have sent an e-mail that couldn't be acted upon even if it had the support of a third of the local party, which it doesn't.
I should stop getting annoyed about this stuff but there has to be a better way to cover / follow politics.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link
Doesn't bother me as much as who is sharing it:
A small group of members are trying to bully another pregnant MP out of the Party. This reprehensible behaviour cannot be tolerated. We will not accept bullying and threats in our ranks. The entire shadow cabinet will want to publicly condemn this too. https://t.co/7imry32iOP— Tom Watson (@tom_watson) July 3, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:37 (four years ago) link
Jess Philips as well, inevitably.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link
Maybe there is something to this after all:
If it's fabricated, why have loads of Labour MPs - including Tom Watson and Jon Ashworth - responded by making clear their support for Ellie Reeves?— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) July 3, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link
raf behr’s piece today is one for the ages
real reality distortion field stuff
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link
Yeah, weird that Tom Watson would throw himelf into a total non-story like this, really out of character.— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) July 3, 2019
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
Gaby Hinsliff too, questioning Corbyn's intellectual capacity to sit down and read 100 documents a day, as if we didn't just have May looking like doing just that, or whether that's massively important in the grand scheme of things, or like we don't see them on twitter mis-read tiny bits of information daily.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link
I was actually clapping (well figuratively speaking) one of the Graun adults in the room the other day: Polly Toynbee for saying on AQ that all this speak of "extremist Corbyn" is nonsense and it is the Tories who have truly been the extremists. Not exactly dynamite, but at least she's not speaking in unison with the dim-melt crowd.
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link
credit where it's due
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
Did people ever say John Major, who didn’t even proceed to A Levels, couldn’t deal with his red boxes due to a lack of academic qualifications? I find this take on Corbyn fairly tedious.
― suzy, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link
I don't get who its for. Its like the last 5 years haven't happened, no one gaf about any of this reading a document shite. The people who spend time reading documents in front of correctly angled cameras are the ones that trashed everything. Such a pointless and tone-deaf line of attack
― anvil, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
this starts off as a comically bad "dystopian post-Brexit future" story then abruptly turns into a half-baked analysis of the Tory leadership electionhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/04/autumn-2020-no-deal-britain-conservative-partyworth every penny of that 6-figure salary!
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link
i almost feel it's a net positive of brexit that so many people have unequivocally shown themselves to be pricks, barmy, stupid or otherwise gaping arseholes. bad with words, bad with thoughts. Tear them for their bad verses. (i think mark s used this recently, but it's also i think my favourite shakespeare line so)
― Fizzles, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link