2020 Democratic presidential primary

lol

it's true, it's true. to both of the last posts

although i think i make the 'i see you' avatar joke on here every 2-3 months. that part of the movie really stuck with me

Beto is polling at 2%. He could beat Cornyn in TX.
Hickenlooper is polling at 1%. He could beat Gardner in CO.
Bullock is polling at 0%. He could beat Daines in MT.
Stacey Abrams isn’t even running. She could beat Perdue in GA.

We *need* the Senate in 2020.

— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) May 12, 2019

otm, all those people should run for Senate

Is there a reason Beto needs to run in TX vs the Democratic candidates who are already running?

just found out my mom supports biden : /

I dare not ask my mother who she supports. (It would be nice if it was Warren, but I doubt it.)

who would you rather your mom support - biden or bin laden? not so fast. who is more electable? that's right, vote joe biden 2020

a lot of my older friends (people who are nothing like my parents) are leaning towards Biden for reasons of "electability". I hope their perspectives change as the campaigns progress, but I don't know

who is more likely to call in a bomb threat, biden or bin laden?

the unsettling elephant in the room

something something just Biden time ...

http://i11.tinypic.com/53ucxtl.gif

joe biden, la dee fucking biden

my dad was for bernie for like five minutes several weeks ago, totally blew my mind, was overjoyed he seemed to be perceiving the disposition of forces correctly after decades of standard boomer mcgovern trauma. then biden entered and he immediately switched. horrifying most of all because it would seem to reveal that his only actual criterion is "must be an old white guy".

my mom otoh is mildly susceptible to flavor-of-the-weeks like beto and pete but keeps circling back to bernie. (not enough faith in the country to believe in warren, which is imo an error.) but she's not a citizen lol so it's academic.

hm, i was talking on fb w my octogenarian aunt and she was a bernie supporter in 16. she was p fatalistic about warren's chances due to being a woman. granted, she still think biden sucks, but these ol people are scared as hell!!!!!!!

results for "bin biden"
About 21,000 results (0.33 seconds)

we are cutting edge here obv

https://cdn.talkingpointsmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-13-at-10.07.27-AM-804x600.png

what happened in May?

biden officially announced his candidacy in late april; a bunch of new polling was conducted (RCP and other polling aggregators put more of a weight on recent polls)

also, it became clear that joe biden is the leader that this country needs. only he has the experience and wisdom needed to bring out country back from the depths that the one-time aberration donald trump, an outlier that has nothing to do with the rest of US history, has led us into

bleah

It’s hard to blame Dems for being a bit shell-shocked after the last few years and clinging to the safest, most mainstream choice.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/05/blast-from-the-past-2

we are still preposterously early here. fwiw sanders did not declare his candidacy officially until may 26, 2015. things could - i'd go so far as to say 'will' - look wildly different in three or six months.

clinging to the safest, most mainstream choice

like they did in 2016!

but the Democratic party has completely changed since then. I heard it on a podcast.

we are still preposterously early here

otm

every campaign cycle needs a new Romney

I don’t think there was much of a choice given to Dem voters in 2016. I think in some ways Biden is a much more regressive choice in 2020 than Hillary was in 2016. xp

is it early, of course. we all remember when giuliani and fred thompson were frontrunners. and herman cain. and michele bachmann, for a couple days.

but, uh. i think people who don't want to have to urge people to vote for joe fucking biden for the next 18 months should be concerned.

of course i'm concerned there's just very little i can do about it at the moment?

developing the defeatjoebiden.com social network, of course

It's really, really early, but that post-announcement bounce for Biden was a lot larger than expected, no?

guys i might not be remembering right but... is joe biden's OG presidential run the origin of the phrase "name-mentum"...??

iirc all of those early "leads" by Lieberman, Guiliani, etc. were in the teens and 20s, not over 40%.

xpost real answer in my post

Think it was Joe Lieberman. xp

also, it became clear that joe biden is the leader that this country needs. only he has the experience and wisdom needed to bring out country back from the depths that the one-time aberration donald trump, an outlier that has nothing to do with the rest of US history, has led us into

― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 May 2019 15:18 (one hour ago) Permalink

This is why people like him. They want this to be the case.

It’s disappoing but this huge lead might not be an aberration. And it can’t just be name recognition—everyone knows who bernie sanders is

When i search biden the first result i get is an actblue link that he is “wrong for america” and a thing to sign to get gravel to the debates

the fact of how far ahead he is in this crowded a field is deeply concerning to me but yes, it is very early

And it can’t just be name recognition—everyone knows who bernie sanders is

But you could argue that it's name recognition driving the fact that biden and sanders are well ahead in the early going -- the fact that lots of dems prefer biden to sanders if those are the only two choices is maybe not a huge surprise, but I don't think it's obvious there's no hope for the twenty-some candidates who are still pretty unknown to the median voter at this point.

It would just be warren or harris really.

Buttigieg, maybe, could seem like a new obama. I think that’s the field. Booker, Beto, Gillibrand et al don’t seem like they will be able to find a niche.

So what we're saying is that Sanders should drop out to leave room for Warren?

well, look at what all the voters have said!

stupid
motherfucking
politics

Biden was vice president though, and people remember the Obama years fondly... that's going to give much better recognition than Bernie Sanders has, "recognition" is not a binary and Biden has a shit ton more than another Dem candidate could except like Taylor Swift (who could probably win)

does anyone else have the feeling that "electable" biden could well lose to trump?

easily