2020 Democratic presidential primary

my man, we know texas too good

this is a whole world I hadn't imagined

I know, it's sidetrack

*a*

the larger question to address should be why people are racking so much credit card debt in the first place

bingo! Poor people run up cc debt almost invariably to purchase necessities they cannot afford to buy from their earnings.

There was an op-ed in my local newspaper this week about how a carbon cap-and-trade bill in the state legislature, which would provide a rebate on income taxes to offset gas price increases for poor people, would be horrible for poor people who are living paycheck to paycheck. The op-ed writer drew the conclusion that 'the legislators should find a better way to fight climate change', but did not even touch on the idea that working people must be provided with sufficient earnings from their work that they can afford to buy food, shelter, transportation, basic utilities, medicine and clothing from their earnings. If they can't, then society must provide these things from its pooled resources.

the very definition of cynicism: treating your vote like it's Family Feud

More than 60% of Democrats in the poll say they prize electability over whether they agree with the candidates. There are not many fresh ways to write this, but either Biden rivals convince voters that he's not electable, or Biden wins. https://t.co/KgppUap1EG

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) May 9, 2019

mainstream media trains people to think that hewing to the middle of the road makes them smart and sensible adult citizens. it's honestly no less insane than Fox News training its audience to demonstrate fealty to Trump no matter what.

noooooooo

Presidential hopeful Biden looking for ‘middle ground’ climate policy

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden is crafting a climate change policy he hopes will appeal to both environmentalists and the blue-collar voters who elected Donald Trump, according to two sources, carving out a middle ground approach that will likely face heavy resistance from green activists.

The backbone of the policy will likely include the United States re-joining the Paris Climate Agreement and preserving U.S. regulations on emissions and vehicle fuel efficiency that Trump has sought to undo, according to one of the sources, Heather Zichal, who is part of a team advising Biden on climate change. She previously advised President Barack Obama.

The second source, a former energy department official advising Biden's campaign who asked not to be named, said the policy could also be supportive of nuclear energy and fossil fuel options like natural gas and carbon capture technology, which limit emissions from coal plants and other industrial facilities.

(note: everything in the above paragraphs would mark a return to the Obama administration's "all of the above" energy "strategy")

The approach, which has not been previously reported, will set Biden apart from many of his Democratic rivals for the White House who have embraced much tougher climate agendas, like the Green New Deal calling for an end to U.S. fossil fuels use within 10 years. That could make Biden, vice president under Obama, a target of environmental groups and youth activists ahead of next year’s primary elections.

"I respect where they (activist groups) are coming from," Zichal said. "What we learned from the Obama administration is unless we find middle ground on these issues, we risk not having any policies."

Zichal is his climate advisor

We learned that, eh? The whipped cur flinches at the show of a hand.

t/s: no policies vs repurposed republican policies

I'm no Biden fan but this is still pretty far from the Trump/GOP position on climate change, isn't it?

Well, Trump's whole policy has been to undo every Obama policy. It appears that Biden's plan is to redo every Obama policy and then sit on his hands. So, yes, that would be different than Trump, but entirely unimaginative. Meanwhile the years slip by.

Yeah, it wasn't that inspiring, just distinct from (and better than) Republican policy.

this is it basically

What worries the left about Biden is not that he might lose to Trump, though they do worry that. The first order worry is that, as president, he'd just grumble "folks, we're better than this" as the GOP stole his lunch money, setting up a GOP comeback in 2024.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) April 27, 2019

and it applies to climate change as much as anything

Joe Biden: “If you go out and bundle $250K for me, all legal, and then you call me after I’m elected and say ‘Joe, I’d like to talk to you about something.’ I’m gonna say ‘Come on in.’ It’s human nature.” pic.twitter.com/Nd4DA8xwiF

— Justice Democrats (@justicedems) May 11, 2019

why
why

"all legal" is straight up Trumpian

At least he’s being honest. That’ll probably fade away soon

Oh wow

the problem is he's entirely right

and w/o the context here I imagine he's using "you" and "me" for purposes of the example

but if he's not making an argument for broad campaign finance reform or repealing citizens united, fuck him

ha, all the stuff from 08 is just ripe for the picking. gotta love how he went from being the guy who couldnt keep his foot out of his mouth to dem frontrunner status in 11 years.

OK, watching the clip, I see that i) it was from 08 and ii) he was making a critical comment about the corrosive power of lobbyists.

He's not exactly shunning their company on this run AFAICT.

Justice Democrats checkmark should mention the date of footage like that, because I feel like a gullible dumbass when I think it’s current

A fair request, but '08 wasn't exactly a lifetime ago. It just feels like it

Eh, it’s a clear breach of social media protocol

OK, watching the clip, I see that i) it was from 08 and ii) he was making a critical comment about the corrosive power of lobbyists.

― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, May 11, 2019 5:09 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

re: ii, he's criticizing while taking himself off the hook for taking money from them and talking to them. "love the sinner, hate the sin" type beat.

Lol so easy to sink this guy

He’lll just get in the race and metooed about out of there don’t worry

On the Media w/ Pareene on "electability"

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/on-the-media-electability-myth

So... this Gabbard fan should make a policy statement at the debates... Why, exactly?

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/443099-mike-gravel-says-sanders-gabbard-would-be-ideal-2020-dem-ticket?amp#click=https://t.co/BzJeTUqmNS

*snores*

Professional politician. pic.twitter.com/vATOCDQmb7

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) May 12, 2019

After Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes called for the social media company to be broken up, Sen. Cory Booker tells @ABC’s @jonkarl antitrust laws need to be enforced: “We’ve had a problem in America with corporate consolidation”

See more on @ThisWeekABC: https://t.co/TBnCDD3UkN pic.twitter.com/GbNKjFcBzl

— ABC News (@ABC) May 11, 2019

could this fucking dweeb suck any more?

i want to say he's not a politician but he plays one on tv, but he is a politician

it makes sense that national politicians and the extreme wealthy / business moguls go hand in hand. they are some of the only people in the world who exist in an artificial altworld where it's perfectly understood that everyone is completely full of shit but it's a faux pas to publicly acknowledge it, and yet their decisions really do influence the entire country in a way that isn't true with anyone else. when they see each other at meetings it must feel like the "i see you" moments in Avatar

is that the first time anyone has ever referenced something that happened in avatar

exist in an artificial altworld where it's perfectly understood that everyone is completely full of shit but it's a faux pas to publicly acknowledge it,

Karl, I thought you were from the Midwest.

lol

it's true, it's true. to both of the last posts

although i think i make the 'i see you' avatar joke on here every 2-3 months. that part of the movie really stuck with me

Beto is polling at 2%. He could beat Cornyn in TX.
Hickenlooper is polling at 1%. He could beat Gardner in CO.
Bullock is polling at 0%. He could beat Daines in MT.
Stacey Abrams isn’t even running. She could beat Perdue in GA.

We *need* the Senate in 2020.

— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) May 12, 2019

otm, all those people should run for Senate

Is there a reason Beto needs to run in TX vs the Democratic candidates who are already running?

just found out my mom supports biden : /

I dare not ask my mother who she supports. (It would be nice if it was Warren, but I doubt it.)

who would you rather your mom support - biden or bin laden? not so fast. who is more electable? that's right, vote joe biden 2020

a lot of my older friends (people who are nothing like my parents) are leaning towards Biden for reasons of "electability". I hope their perspectives change as the campaigns progress, but I don't know

who is more likely to call in a bomb threat, biden or bin laden?

the unsettling elephant in the room