El Tomboto at 7:35 27 Apr 19People who post on politics threads and still can’t internalize the 27% rule
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 11:57 (seven years ago)
I laughed several times while watching Still Open All Hours so adding myself to the savage list here
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:26 (seven years ago)
That they should die young of unnatural causes?
"27% rule" refers to The Crazification Factor, first laid out in 2005 as follows:
John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is --Tyrone: 27%.John: ... you said that immmediately, and with some authority.Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?Tyrone: Hadn't thought about it. Let's split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?
Tyrone: 27%.
John: ... you said that immmediately, and with some authority.
Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.
John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?
Tyrone: Hadn't thought about it. Let's split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.
John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?
Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:57 (seven years ago)
I agree with all that, but still say that some complete racists walking into the booth and seeing the names ALAN KEYES and BARACK OBAMA would've voted for Alan Keyes, even if he'd been a Democrat.
Both candidates might have been black, but one candidate was blacker – in this case, the one with the white mother.
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:05 (seven years ago)
feeling AA on the coffee date scene
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:23 (seven years ago)
Guy in the pub who dried his hands under the drier after having a piss.
No washing. Just drying.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Saturday, 11 May 2019 07:59 (seven years ago)
give piss a chance.
― calzino, Saturday, 11 May 2019 08:11 (seven years ago)
idgi how else are you supposed to dry the piss on your hands
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 11 May 2019 13:49 (seven years ago)
Wipe them on your trousers, obviously.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 May 2019 13:50 (seven years ago)
This post has been haunting me all day.
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:38 (seven years ago)
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 12 May 2019 04:24 (seven years ago)
is putting your seat back on a plane considered rude??!
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, June 5, 2019 8:04 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:09 (seven years ago)
All the way back is a dick moveHalfway is fine and expected
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:12 (seven years ago)
if i were going to i would probably ask the person behind me if they mind but the only reason i would want to is the person in front of me did :-\
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:14 (seven years ago)
this is why i charter my own flights tbh
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:16 (seven years ago)
If it's a redeye, it's fine (bring up during food service). If it's daytime, you should look behind you to gauge if they put their seat back or are short.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:17 (seven years ago)
Depends on how many extra rows of seats they've crammed in though doesn't it?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:26 (seven years ago)
only acceptable if a) the person in front of you did it, and b) you are of a certain height
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:32 (seven years ago)
The worst are the people who luck out and get a row to themselves so they lie down AND put back all the seats.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:35 (seven years ago)
i had three rows to myself once, transatlantic flight on xmas eve, even then i don't think i put them back!
― The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:46 (seven years ago)
What the shit kind of planes are u people going on where there even is an “all the way back” to the seat. It goes back like 4 inches on every plane I’ve ever taken
― thewufs, Thursday, 6 June 2019 00:28 (seven years ago)
Ok I think airplane seats used to go back a little further, but not in like the last 10 years
― thewufs, Thursday, 6 June 2019 00:33 (seven years ago)
I’m relatively tall, I’m fat, I paid 350 bucks for my round trip ticket, people in front of me put their seats back all the time. I’m putting my goddamn seat back
― thewufs, Thursday, 6 June 2019 00:34 (seven years ago)
the only flights i ever take anymore are international flights but i will be fucked if i’m not putting my seat back every single time BESIDESthe “upright position” means the seat-back is slightly forward anyway because airlines are assholes so “back” is barely reclining anywayif that makes me a savage i dont care
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:08 (seven years ago)
Everyone in the cabin putting their seat back is a kind of collective passive aggression that makes the flight less enjoyable for all
― calstars, Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:08 (seven years ago)
the only flights i ever take anymore are international flights but i will be fucked if i’m not putting my seat back every single time
BESIDES
the “upright position” means the seat-back is slightly forward anyway because airlines are assholes so “back” is barely reclining anyway
if that makes me a savage i dont care
Agree with all of this. My last 3 plane trips were Newark/Norway (twice) and Newark/Stockholm. I'm 6'2". I'm putting my seat back as far as it will go, and if I have an aisle seat I am sticking my fucking legs out into the aisle. Planes fucking suck; do everything you can to maximize your personal comfort, because I guarantee you no one else on the plane (crew or fellow passengers) gives the tiniest fuck about you.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:16 (seven years ago)
EXACTLY
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:18 (seven years ago)
nah fuck that. it's a collective action problem. have some moral backbone.
― adam, Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:30 (seven years ago)
My actual spine > my "moral backbone"
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:34 (seven years ago)
I am flying for a cumulative 54 hours this month. I am going to die. I did finally start using knee high compression socks though.
― Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:48 (seven years ago)
#leanback
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:17 (seven years ago)
vg + unperson otm
I had to fly Spirit last week, the seats don't even go back! It is like leaning forward.
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:29 (seven years ago)
if a seat goes back it goes back
talk to the manufacturer if you have a problem with that
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2019 06:49 (seven years ago)
thanks for this insight into the mind of a savage
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:38 (seven years ago)
we were consulted in the initial design fyi the system works
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:03 (seven years ago)
amidst the discomfort there is a twinge of satisfaction at the systems failure to work when the person in front of me tries to recline their seat and it immediately hits my knees and doesn't move
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:16 (seven years ago)
the twinge id feel there would probably be my knees
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:16 (seven years ago)
You know there's a cheap plastic widget you can buy which you attach to your tray table and which prevents the person in front of you from putting their seat back. I've never tried it but then again I normally fly business class.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:55 (seven years ago)
There is literally nothing you can do to make flying Ryanair anything less than an ordeal tbf.
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2019 09:01 (seven years ago)
... other than not flying Ryanair.
At least Ryanair don't go long-haul.
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 6 June 2019 09:09 (seven years ago)
The last time I flew Ryanair was when my Easyjet flight to Belfast got cancelled and the Ryanair desk immediately doubled the prices of their flight to Dublin plus wanted to charge us something like £60 to print out boarding passes for the flight we were buying for immediate travel at the desk
(which we did not pay because the attendant at some tropical holiday company desk let us print them out on her printer for free, hurrah - and then Ryanair said they were the wrong size and printed out a new copy for us for free anyway...)
we remarked that Ryanair were the only airline that can piss you off more than the one that actually cancelled your flight
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 6 June 2019 09:35 (seven years ago)
yep
aer lingus gone as bad lately tbh
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2019 09:49 (seven years ago)
I had to fly Spirit last week, the seats don't even go back!
spirit otm
― mookieproof, Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:12 (seven years ago)
Supposedly if you buy a seat that reclines you are allowed to recline no matter what. So even those knee defender things won't help.
― Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:24 (seven years ago)
shoutout to the woman in front of me in the supermarket queue last night who paid what seemed like the bulk of a €40 grocery bill in coppers
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)
I am six feet tall and on many airline seats, the space into which you are reclining is precisely where my knees are.
I don't recline unless the seat behind me is unoccupied.
― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:33 (seven years ago)
> €40 grocery bill in coppers
in the uk anything more than 20p in coppers isn't legal tender and they don't have to accept it. not sure whether that's 20p in 1ps and 20p in 2ps or 20p total.
― koogs, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:43 (seven years ago)
have i read that its 18 coins or is that a myth
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:53 (seven years ago)
that seems random
https://www.royalmint.com/help/trm-faqs/legal-tender-amounts/
― koogs, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:03 (seven years ago)