An awful shower altogether - vote for the worst member of the Irish diaspora

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Just away to research Gaz Coombes's ancestry.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link

mcgrath for pronouncing it that way

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

would put james mcclean there too

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link

Doesn't count, he's one of you lot, not a descendant.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:43 (five years ago) link

it is quite amusing how the wiki page on English people of Irish descent is so padded out with shitty EFL journeymen, whose height of fame was their 2 ROI under 21's caps 10 years ago or their big move to PNE.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link

The radio station I have an occasional show on have news clippings by the door, one of them is their youngish female presenter reviewing a restaurant with Rory McG. Every time I pass it I think about how her fledgling media career has led to her basically being required to go on a date with a disheveled bore and convicted stalker 30 years her senior, maybe she doesn't see it like that, but it's still very creepy.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link

Let's not be picking on aging disheveled bores please

call me cismale (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

Doesn't count, he's one of you lot, not a descendant.

― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:43 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

diaspora

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

This is obviously non exhaustive but I was going for the absolute worst I could think of.

Not included: emigrants or citizens raised or living in Ireland.

Also not included: people like George Osborne who claim they’re Irish (but are actually Ascendancy).

― gyac, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 11:46 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link

Ronald Reagan couldn't even finish his pint when he visited Ballyporeen. Scum. Subhuman scum.

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

What did James mcclean ever do to merit inclusion?

Also how does McGrath pronounce it? Is it a Jonathan Powell & his brother situation?

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link

Harry Kane

Number None, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link

declan rice

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link

what did terry wogan do to merit non-inclusion

mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

he is worse than bridget hitler

mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

migratttthh

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

Xxp worst emigrants is a different poll

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

Wogan is an actual Irishman of the Duke of Wellington school

Number None, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

all of generation emigration

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

anyway it's Blair tho obv not irish

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

Daniel Day-Lewis lays it on a bit thick tbh

Number None, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

Couldn't decide, so I consulted my husband on this one. He says Bannon, so that's how I voted.

If the poll were asking to determine the most punchable, I wouldn't have hesitated a second before voting Hannity.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link

I voted for Brendan O’ Neill, as he really puts in the effort at being a cunt 100%, no distractions like making music or getting elected

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link

if memory serves jim davidson's mum was irish.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link

ts: Blair vs Flatley for most diddley-eye shite

Blair:

Tony Blair has described his late mother as an “almost saintly woman” whose death changed his life forever. Blair’s mother Hazel Blair was raised in Co. Donegal and came from what he described as a ‘fiercely Protestant’ family.

Speaking about his Irish roots, Blair said that he loved going to Ireland every year and the family would usually stay at the Sandhouse Hotel in Rossnowlagh, near Ballyshannon.

He wrote, “At that beach I learned to swim in the freezing Atlantic Ocean. I had my first go at chasing girls, aged about 11. I was taught my first chords on the guitar. I drank my first Guinness.”


Flatley:
His father, Michael, came from Culfadda, Co. Sligo, and his mother Eilish from Co. Carlow. They left Ireland in 1947 for Chicago “with nothing, like most Irish people,” according to their son.

They worked hard at their construction business, through punishing summers and freezing winters.

“We worked seven days a week, including holidays, we didn't go on unemployment benefit but we made it,” Flatley told a conference in 2007. “We didn't bitch about the guy next door who was richer because he sold his house for more money and we didn't bitch about the guy down the street who might be poorer. That is the sign of the Irish spirit.”

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

Jim Davidson was on the wiki list.

funny little wormhole to go down is the bridget hitler one, and where all that nonsense about the scouse hitlers comes from. lolled at her son William Patrick Hitler failing to blackmail Hitler into giving him a top job in the reich, then writing an article entitled Why I hate My Uncle for Time magazine.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link

wayne rooney

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link

“We didn't bitch about the guy next door who was richer because he sold his house for more money and we didn't bitch about the guy down the street who might be poorer. That is the sign of the Irish spirit.”

lol no it's not

Number None, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link

fact

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

Begrudgery is as Irish a characteristic as you’ll find!

Also lol at his parents leaving the country in 1947.

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

the true irish spirit in those circs is "i knew him when he had no arse to his trousers"

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:22 (five years ago) link

I've got vivid early memories of next door but one Polish neighbours the Wenzels having very unseemly "Polish scum" "Irish bastards" type over the hedge slanging matches on the regular with my parents.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link

My Perthshire girl is pointing out that this is all well and good and all, but they've got Trump.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

They can also claim Blair and Murdoch and Gove!

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link

claim/take

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link

Are any of the Barca lads Irish at all

Number None, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link

gerard pique anyway

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link

I mean, Blair and Gove are actually Scottish, though.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link

Blair is more fucking Australian than Irish.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

he only lived in australia for a few years as an infant.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

I don’t think anyone disputed Gove being Scottish lol but unfortunately Blair counts as diaspora

Love how he paid tribute to his “fiercely Protestant” mother by becoming a deeply weird catholic convert as an adult

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

blair was born in scotland and spent a good deal of his childhood and youth there however

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

(lived there as a tot and then attended fettes as a teen)

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

discarding his accent along the way

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link

Fite, but I would wager there's more evil Scottish diaspora bastards in the world than Irish - if not in total then in proportion.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link

nah id saw thats right

just in ireland alone like

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link

These US Presidents who all claim to be Irish are usually Ulster Scots efter a'

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link

I'm just remembering (I'm not sure if this is a fake memory) Cathal Coughlan saying in an interview that when he met Mark E Smith for the first time, he said hello and MES replied: you're not Irish and just walked past him.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link

If Blair and Murdoch teach us anything it’s that Irish and Scottish combinations can sometimes result in the most uniquely evil people

gyac, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link

don't underestimate the Australian factor as well.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link

Claire Fox dodged a bullet here.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

Yeah there’s loads of people I could have included here - she still wouldn’t have won though

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I've only just found out that Paul "Guido Fawkes" Staines belongs on this list!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

Indeed, worthy omission. He lives there I think.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link

his mum from a w/c Dublin background his dad an Indian immigrant and a sometime member of the Fabian Society. It was obv all the father's fault imo!

calzino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link

Interesting how many hideous right wing wankers in the UK have Irish (Catholic) ancestry, the Living Marxism/Spiked crew is riddled with them.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

xp is his dad actually Indian cos he’s described as “anglo-Indian” and his name sounds British

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link

(Just to be on the safe side I checked Dominic McKenzie Cummings - belongs in the Scottish wanker camp).

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

xp

aye possibly a lot more of the British Raj in him than Indian

calzino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link

Just read this thread back and it was some pretty funny work all round

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Margaret Hilda Roberts was born on 13 October 1925, in Grantham, Lincolnshire.[5] Her parents were Alfred Roberts (1892–1970), from Northamptonshire, and Beatrice Ethel Stephenson (1888–1960), from Lincolnshire.[5][6] Her father's maternal grandmother, Catherine Sullivan, was born in County Kerry, Ireland.[7]

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

Sorry that’s too far back for her to count

mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

Yeah not hanging this one on us

Anyway- kerry

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 December 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

Yeah not surprising Kerry

plax (ico), Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

Lol

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

tbf Kerry is a very beautiful place but granted some or perhaps even quite a lot of the people are not reet!

calzino, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

I can remember walking past a Tralee Sinn Fein building in the 80's that had posters of Thatcher in a noose with a wanted: dead or alive banner plastered all over the windows. If only they knew she was one of their own!

calzino, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

Sorry that’s too far back for her to count

It's actually as far as back as Murdoch's ancestry I think?

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

The only ones that count for me are first and second generation candidates, all that ancestry.com nonsense doesn't mean that much at all. But this does conveniently segue with my own bullshit about determinedly not being English despite living here since 1973!

calzino, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

I simply renounce any nation that would have me as a member

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Jimmy Carr should have in this poll.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 24 April 2023 10:18 (one year ago) link

even his Irish dad seems to think he's a twat. He wrote in his book that he moved from Limerick to Slough. His dad wasn't impressed with his bad Irish jokes and disparaging comments about Limerick and also he corrected that they in fact moved from Limerick to South Kensington, which is not Slough.

calzino, Monday, 24 April 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link

Yes it seems they had a fallout and he hasn't spoken to his dad in years - much to the the relief of the father I assume.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 24 April 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I hate our diaspora SO much. Obscuring actual discrimination in favour of sharing white suprematist talking points, couldn’t be me

I keep seeing these takes about Irish people “not counting” as white in U.S. history and honestly, there is nothing historical about such a claim. The Irish were included in the ‘white’ column of every colonial census going back to Stapleton’s Leeward Islands survey in the 1670s. pic.twitter.com/IViHErffA0

— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) May 10, 2023

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

Tom Brady?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

He got two votes in the original poll

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I saw that, I found it surprising. Compared to most of the other people on the list, he's pretty innocuous.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link


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