Avengers: Infinity War

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^^^ This made me laugh a lot harder than I expected it to

Basically the ending would have worked better had Captain America simply never come back and left the others hanging. Then they could flash back to the same scene of him dancing with his girl, and might have been more bittersweet and affecting than old Captain America.

That would have been incredibly dumb because there wouldn't have been any closure for the characters re: Captain America's story and the universe's narrative would not be able to move beyond him without making the remaining Avengers seem even more callous/dismissive than they've already been in the movie (see everyone letting Black Widow wallow aside from the folks on her conference calls).

I, personally, do not want three more movies of "whatever happened to Captain America?" when I could have "Sam Wilson is now Captain America; how is the world reacting to that?" instead.

mh, all that happens there is that there's another timeline where Thanos disappears in 2014, and so Endgame doesn't happen in that one.

Cap only creates a new timeline if he changes the past - there's no evidence that he does, and some evidence that he doesn't (IE his appearance at the end of this film)

1) Sam could still be Captain America.

2) Who cares about closure? Anyway, the fact that people, including us, are discussing and debating whether what Captain America did was even possible, or what it means for the multiverse and so on, shows that there has been no closure on that front.

"who cares about closure," he says about the movie "endgame"

xp I am sort of wondering if you know what that word means, Josh.

Thanos got closed.

And endgamed.

Sam would not be Captain America without Steve's blessing. His respect for/deference to Cap is a core part of the character, both in the movies and in the comic books; he would never see himself worthy of the position without outside influence from the man holding it. It's even there in that final scene where he hesitates and checks with Bucky before going to talk to old Steve; in Sam's mind, Bucky is Steve's best friend and should have first dibs but Bucky knows Sam has been Steve's partner in crime for years at this point, plus Bucky already said goodbye to Steve by calling back to their exchange decades ago when Steve sets off to return the stones.

Also yes, you don't know what "closure" actually means in the context of a narrative.

I'll go one step forward, I don't know what closure means at all. I am just that ignorant.

Sam would not be Captain America without Steve's blessing. His respect for/deference to Cap is a core part of the character, both in the movies and in the comic books; he would never see himself worthy of the position without outside influence from the man holding it. It's even there in that final scene where he hesitates and checks with Bucky before going to talk to old Steve; in Sam's mind, Bucky is Steve's best friend and should have first dibs but Bucky knows Sam has been Steve's partner in crime for years at this point, plus Bucky already said goodbye to Steve by calling back to their exchange decades ago when Steve sets off to return the stones.

OTM. I enjoyed that scene.

My only quibble is whether Bucky would prefer to live in the past is never clarified. My preference is more White Wolf character development!

Well, prepare for clarification from the upcoming Disney+ series (now almost certain to be entitled Captain America & the Winter Soldier or somesuch).

Their choice of characters to make shows about, btw, makes much more sense now that we've seen Endgame.

(now almost certain to be entitled /Captain America & the Winter Soldier/ or somesuch).

I mean I guess he could still be Falcon for the show but that seems like a demotion at this point.

I mean it feels a little like the loose plan atm is to relegate what's left of the Avengers-qua-Avengers to a handful of short streaming series while the films shift focus toward the outliers and weirdoes, but I'm sure they'll mostly be back on the big screen at some point down the road.

I mean

Avengers Endgame 2 - a film for the nerds where all they do is sit in a room and describe how the time travel worked

very disappointed michael pena was not looped into the time heist.

agreed - they could have used more normal human sidekick business

as much as it pains me to turn down an opportunity for more peña, the last thing this movie needed was more characters

Separately (good discussion above there, thanks DJP) -- anyone seen this in IMAX yet? As it was filmed in it, we figured we'd catch a second showing this weekend at the local theater in SF.

I did. Enjoyed it, obv.

metreon in SF apparently has the only true IMAX screen within a nuclear fallout blast radius.

I watched it with my nose practically pressed to the screen (second row, recommended), q: does that count

watched it surrounded by approximately 30 small babies and their parents - absolutely the best way to watch any movie, a+ would recommend 100%

Rather see it surrounded by a bunch of crying babies than a load of marvel fans says you

Pena’s character recapping to Scott Lang what had happened while he’d been trapped in the quantum realm would’ve been great.

I have seen it in IMAX 3D and Samsung Onyx 3D. The clarity was incredible on the Onyx, but nothing beats the sheer scale of IMAX imo.

I would prob suggest IMAX 2D though. Aside from Gravity, I really don't find 3D adds anything to these kind of movies - only went twice cause my husband's a fan of 3D and he missed our first screening due to work.

Yeah we're going to the 2D IMAX showing, already caught regular 3D the opening Thursday night.

Going to see something on an IMAX screen that was filmed in IMAX, but then converted pixel-by-pixel to 3D, presumably wipes out all the benefit and expense of going to IMAX

(Gravity was “filmed”/created in 3D instead of faked)

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ActuallyMan, the ilx avenger

I was saying why it's effective there! ie bcz it was done on purpose! Apols if Roz thought I was being snotty about wording

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— James Cameron (@JimCameron) May 9, 2019

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Wow, didn't realize this had already happened. Although I've already seen it twice, which is virtually unheard of wrt me and movies on the big screen (like Pulp Fiction may have been the last time I saw a film more than once during its initial theatrical run). What I'm saying is: Disney, you're welcome.

It's kind of incredible how quickly it's achieved 2nd highest grossing movie of all time

I'm gonna be that guy today, I guess

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

thank u for introduceing us to concept of adjusted gross, are eyes are opned now and we can see forevr

the backlash against criticism has maybe reached the stage ye might consider it imo

Isn't Gone With the Wind including the numerous times it re-entered theatres and not the original run?

Actually yes, the first five films on that list

Plus

pre-1980 pictures achieved their totals through multiple releases, especially Disney animated features which made much of their totals in the past few decades belying their original release dates in terms of adjustment. For example, Snow White has made $118,328,683 of its unadjusted $184,925,486 total since 1983. Click here for a full discussion of adjusting for movie ticket price inflation.

IIRC Two Wee Lasses Indulging in a Lolly still maintains the attendance record but that was before they started charging theater patrons (admission being gained in exchange for a promissory note for a free sock darning or carriage wash).