Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

a: a LOT of local labour councils suck v v badly
b: this is partly bcz draconian govt imposed budget constraints mean they have little power to deliver what voters wd like (bins!) …
c: … partly bcz many of them are ancient tribal fiefdoms w.all the rotten-borough complacency and uselessness that arrives with this …
d: … partly bcz friends-in-the-north*-type property development solutions has been one of the few sell-stuff-off moneygathering solutions currently available …
e … and in addition party central has nothing like enough shake-up and deselect power to tackle all this
f: (not to mention – not to be mealymouthed abt it – is nowhere near attentive enough yet to the generation of politics in this sphere)

*(inc.north london) (also south london lol)

On point c: for lab councils there is a lot of centre Blair/Brown era sludge. When they campaign on a pretence to make the cuts not as hard or fast blah blah there is nothing to offer people.

There is plenty for the likes of The Green Party to work with.

bye tony!

I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shit.

— Tony Robinson (@Tony_Robinson) May 3, 2019

Meltdown May is living up to its name!

CON net loss now at 600. LAB net loss holding at 75.

Can we have Barry G go on telly and say, "Yes, we have lost seats and that is regrettable but there is one bit of good news, Tony Robinson has quit".

lol.

rough times for the robinson brothers eh

I wish MeMeMe Phillips would either fuck off to the CuKs or walk from the party as well pls.

Thought Tony Robinson left aaaages ago? Or says he’s leaving more times than there are iterations of Baldrick.

biggest story of the night is the GRN surge

Tony R can spend more time checking the geophys to see if its picked up his conscience

But he later said that by “sort it”, he was not committing Labour to agreeing a deal with the government. He meant sort it “whichever way”, he said.

The ol' thinking Labour is inordinately or institutionally antisemitic but needing additional reasons to quit. So noble.

Re: the Green surge, obviously the environment has gone up the agenda in the last few months, but they've also presumably been able to make a lot of hay out of reminding people that a party does exist that is both anti-austerity and unambiguously anti-Brexit. I wouldn't expect that to translate to a GE where people are voting with the next govt at the front of their minds, but as sending a signal goes you could do a lot worse.

In local news (local to me anyway) East Goscote has gone from BNP to Conservative to Green. There's tremendous resistance to building new houses around here, especially associated traffic problems and yet, generally speaking, people have voted Tory (again, with some UKIP) despite the Tory dominated council being very keen on building new houses on green field sites (with associated traffic problems). Maybe East Goscote has finally got the message.

Green seems like a good way to go if you don't want to vote Labour. Like the Lib Dems!

RESULT: Conservatives, Labour and Ukip battered. Liberal Democrats, Greens and Independents big winners.

INTERPRETATION: People just want us to get on with Brexit.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you, people?

— Alex Andreou (@sturdyAlex) May 3, 2019

"I write, act, sing, cook" it says on his twitter bio.

Conservatives have just passed 1k seat loss!

And people thought the Tory pollster predicting 800 losses was a ploy so they could say the results weren't that bad after all.

Does anyone know anything about North East Derbyshire? Straightforward Lab->Con switch, it appears.

is it the williamson factor?

Yes, the Tories may have lost over 1000 councillors, but it has been much worse for Labour. They have lost the entire light entertainment industry.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) May 3, 2019

xxp thought immediately of fracking, which is why previous Labour MP lost her seat (she resigned as fracking czar this past week btw). The Tory MP has been opposed to it but idk what councils stance is but there’s tons of stories about it.

My ward has just gone from 3 tory councillors to 3 greens for the first time in forever

I reckon a lot of that will be the caroline effect

lol I just looked on the council website and when you search fracking it gives you a council story about how anti-fracking protestors are inconveniencing people

if you had to stick the UK Green Party on a political spectrum, where would they land? left of the Cons and Lib Dems but right of Labout?

To the left of labour on some issues and definitely to the left of the substantial centrist bloc within labour

are they right of labour on any issues? nothing springs to mind

more on that fracking tsar...

The British government’s recently-departed shale gas commissioner admitted to routinely deleting correspondence and throwing away notes from meetings with fracking companies in a move that may have violated transparency requirements.
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2019/04/29/uk-fracking-shale-gas-commissioner-but-her-emails/

The only thing I know is that they sit in the Green/EFA group in the European Parliament, which is definitely to the left of the group (PES) that Labour is in.

yea the greens are def to the left of labour. the main rejoinder from the labour left is an authentocrat argument that their voters are bougie

greatly enjoying the Kent online coverage and the numerous colourful comments underneath
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/live-local-council-election-results-203882/

UKIP being fucked out of seats all over the county afaict.

xps to the living CHUKTIG logo - ty for link, that’s shocking! How was she ever in Labour?!

xp I thought it was the argument that fptp splits the left vote? But yeah not unhappy to see the greens doing well

saw the CHUKTIG car driving about with a megaphone in glasgow city centre today btw. what's the point in CHUKTIG standing in scotland

i imagine there's some centrist-melt britnat FBPE constituency

don't know how big it is mind

xxp I read somewhere on twitter that they were telling people not to vote labour even though labour aren’t the main party in Scotland?

centrist-melt britnat FBPE constituency

better together labour bloc will still vote labour. too tribal

wait, is |||||||| actually my left twitter fave?

I know I'm a broken record, but one thing a transferable vote is good for is "how much of our vote came from other parties?"

I’ve certainly had my chips this week #mcdonalds pic.twitter.com/kbAraPQ4oW

— Gavin Williamson MP (@GavinWilliamson) May 3, 2019

steve coogan’s worst character by far

xxps no

FINAL RESULTS (248 out of 248 councils declared)

Councillors
Con 3,559 (-1,331)
Lab 2,021 (-81)
LD 1,344 (+700)
Grn 264 (+193)
UKIP 31 (-145)
Oth 1,178 (+662)

Councils
Con 93 (-44)
Lab 60 (-6)
LD 18 (+10)
Oth 4 (+3)
No overall control 73 (+37)

2017 LE comparator
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/43B4/production/_95923371_summary_scoreboard_624_final_result.png

"comparator" designation comes w major hygiene warning of course

I'm more of a waluigi man ; )

breaking the MLC embargo for this
https://i.imgur.com/6aPsNTO.png

I’m not sure I knew anymore than when I asked the question, lol.

Yeah saw that mess of a tweet earlier, this is why we have the embargo!

The problem with the ubiquitous “but Labour’s result is just as bad, if not worse, than the Tories’,” take, is that losing 80 seats is quite obviously not anywhere near as bad as losing 1,300. pic.twitter.com/fHlRvd341J

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) May 3, 2019

I’m sorry but labour and tories lost c.1400 seats