2020 Democratic presidential primary

haha, I definitely winced at that

BREAKING - WE JUST WON OUR CASE CHALLENGING OHIO'S GERRYMANDERED MAP - (longer analysis to follow!) @ACLU pic.twitter.com/P2B8BIR0Cl

— ACLU of Ohio (@acluohio) May 3, 2019

To the Roberts Five it goes!

not really relevant to presidential primaries tho

at this point I am just going to assume one in every three men I run into on the street is running for president

New: De Blasio expected to announce 2020 presidential run next week https://t.co/y8zRAiNE4c

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) May 3, 2019

if you're a man and you're over 6'4" you're running for president whether you like it or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82wU5NfRfr4

jfc xps

https://images.wisconsinhistory.org/700007130033/0713000138-l.jpg

.@EWarren gets cheers and applause when calling for overturning Citizens United.

It’s the loudest, most consistent applause line I’ve heard at campaign events so far in the 2020 cycle.

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 3, 2019

In Iowa today, @EWarren has faced voter questions about money in politics, guns, student debt, abortion, minimum wage, sustainable farming, and “whiteness and identity.”

There was one broad question on cyberattacks, but nobody’s asking about Trump, impeachment or Barr.

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 3, 2019

Today I learned that John Hickenlooper and Jay Inslee are different people.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSug8ONGfEwennc7D-h_ob3MQDKVMB6juLGBVH_3WwQ9gb_DCzl3A https://gwbcenter.imgix.net/Exhibits_and_Events/Events/2018/Forum-On-Leadership/hickenlooper-headshot.jpg?w=600&h=600&q=65&fm=jpg

one of them is much bigger than the other

inslee is kinda ok, hickenlooper is p bad. but yes they could practically be fraternal twins

now run a photo of William Weld.

https://i.imgur.com/rJRUgv3g.jpg

https://www.thedailybeast.com/howard-schultz-has-largely-stopped-his-2020-presidential-prep-work

When former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz first declared that he was entertaining the idea of running for president, he was ubiquitous on the political scene, sitting for interviews with major outlets, appearing at buzzy conferences, and making various stops for a book tour across the country in which he’d persistently tease his White House ambitions.

But in the past two weeks, Schultz has largely disappeared, leaving the impression that the presidential campaign he was flirting with won’t actually come to fruition.

His aides say that’s not the case. Bill Burton, a senior Schultz adviser, said that Schultz was still considering a bid and remained committed to the timeframe he had offered for a formal decision, which should come sometime “in the late spring or early summer.”

wow almost as if he was really just promoting a book or something

Take this with a truckload of salt (ILX will at least be happy with the result). Bill James has been running Twitter polls the past few weeks that square off five candidates at a time against each other. He's started tabulating the results.

Methodology: http://www.billjamesonline.com/introduction_to_the_polling_system/
Latest daily tracking: http://www.billjamesonline.com/poll_results_5-8-2019/

almost as if he was really just promoting a book or something

inviting universal scorn and ridicule upon your poor judgment seems like a weird way to get people to buy your book, if all you are known for is being a CEO.

publicity is all that matters it seems

those polls look good. concern is the media pushing "Biden is now undeniably the front runner" narrative non stop even when things like this say no.

All these old clips of Bernie that were on the Daily Show last night are cracking me up this morning. Him asking kids about cocaine, telling them about bigotry...

xpost Which polls? The most recent ones I see have Biden in the 40s.

oh that one lol

Biden is clearly the frontrunner, and that is not really changed by twitter-experiments :)

I think warren will gain steam if people get to hear her pitch.

She just is the best candidate—so clearly

The best candidate always gets the nomination

sending Bernard money when i can. put Liz on the monthly plan.

Bernie's good on funding for a while. Let him get a little more desperate before throwing money his way again and see what about his campaign changes.

maybe I'm being overly cynical, but while Warren is far and away my favorite I just can't envision a path to her getting the nomination. even if electability doesn't turn out to be the overwhelming consideration, I think it's going to play a major role and she's undoubtedly the worst among the major candidates on that measure, for entirely stupid reasons of course.

Bernie's good on funding for a while

yeah i guess i just like to see the party leaders sweat

xp pretty sure this was posted already, but re: the fantasy of "electability":

https://newrepublic.com/article/153723/democrats-created-electability-monster

that's a great piece and I agree, electability is a crock of shit but lots and lots of people are absolutely buying it.

so how does that get pushed back on? serious question - is there anything we can do besides argue with friends who are willing to listen? (well, and give candidates money of course)

Vote for the candidate who best matches your policy convictions.

Well sure ...unless you live in one of the many states where the voting date is too late to matter.

That's the real source of my frustration here and why I'm more focused on trying to change other people's minds. Still seeing friends talking up the likes of Gillibrand and Beto.

for reference - Oregon is 5th from last not counting DC and PR

February 3: Iowa caucus[229]
February 11: New Hampshire primary[229]
February 22: Nevada caucus[229]
February 29: South Carolina primary[229]
March 3: Super Tuesday (Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, and Virginia primaries; Democrats Abroad preference vote through March 10)[229]
March 7: Louisiana primary[229]
March 8: Maine caucus (likely amended to a Tuesday-in-March primary if primary legislation passes)[229]
March 10: Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, and Washington primaries; North Dakota firehouse caucus/primary[229]
March 17: Arizona, Florida, and Illinois primaries[229]
To be determined: Wyoming caucus (March, TBD)[229]
April 4: Alaska and Hawaii primaries[229]
April 7: Wisconsin primary[229]
April 28: Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island primaries[229]
May 2: Kansas primary[229]
May 5: Indiana primary[229]
May 12: West Virginia primary[229]
May 19: Kentucky and Oregon primaries[229]
June 2: Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota primaries[229]
June 7: Puerto Rico primary[229]
June 16: District of Columbia primary[229]

wiki link is full of other data as well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

donald trump was not “electable”

The argument is pretty simple: Nobody knows who is 'electable' so go for the one you like, and then when she wins, she will have turned the electability conversation on the head.

this is the beginning of the Carly Fiorina movement

What are people's thoughts on the Sanders/AOC proposal to cap credit card interest rates at 15%? I've leaned towards favouring a socialized banking/credit option for a while; not sure what to make of this, though. I could see how it makes some sense, although it seems like the larger question to address should be why people are racking so much credit card debt in the fkrst place.

*first

Curious what people with more of an econ background think.

My problems right now, before i start racking up the cc debt, are a shitty hourly "gig" wage and paying thru the nose for an ACA plan

What are people's thoughts on the Sanders/AOC proposal to cap credit card interest rates at 15%? I've leaned towards favouring a socialized banking/credit option for a while; not sure what to make of this, though. I could see how it makes some sense, although it seems like the larger question to address should be why people are racking so much credit card debt in the fkrst place.

― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, May 9, 2019 1:37 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

without knowing any other details of this plan, its bad. basically, unless they also cap interest rates on other kinds of credit, banks will not offer CC's to people with riskier credit scores and those folks will turn to payday lenders/title loans, etc. which will charge even worse interest rates.

i think if you want to make a meaningful dent in indebtedness, you need to redistribute wealth which allows folks to absorb sudden costs. also universal health care and a robust public transportation system would be good.

don't really understand your post m bison, payday lenders and title loans?

ah, theyre just other lines of credit. payday loans are usually short term loans that give the borrower a sum which they pay off (with exorbitant interest) weeks later when they get their next paycheck. title loans are similar but you use your car title as collateral.