no, but i can guarantee a horde of dead creatures led by NK Jemisin would have done a lot better in battle with than CGI face guy
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link
The trenches were a good idea. Was idly thinking how you'd defend against an enemy like that and a series of concentric barriers that funnel them into kill zones is clearly the way to go.
one of the many "but why did THAT happen?" moments of the episode was wondering how they intended to set the trenches aflame. were they just counting on melisandre to cast Wall of Fire and roll a 20?
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, April 29, 2019 1:36 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the dragons. but they couldn't see the signal.
― ryan, Monday, April 29, 2019 1:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ugh this shit drives me nuts: all of the goofy-looking elements of premodern war -- loud uniforms, big drums, trumpets and cymbals, huge flags that people would die to keep upright -- were to keep people organized and communicating. the whole thing hinged on a guy waving a torch? come on man
― goole, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
Next week the dragons attack King's Landing but are soundly defeated by seasonable fog.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link
One thing I havent seen anyone comment on here or on reddit/twitter is the idea that "aw everyone important survived dammit" isnt a cert. We didnt see how badly off people were after all the wights dropped dead, aside from I think Jon, Melisandre and Dany?
Is it not possible some people are mortally wounded and will end up dying next ep early on?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
eh, I think that's unlikely.
― akm, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link
next ep is a half dozen takes on the hospital bed scene from the end of ROTK, except all the hobbits are sad humans and the person in the bed dies
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:02 (five years ago) link
a late-discovered wound would be a cool storyline, but these writers are interested in cruelty to children, not to the fans
― goole, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link
All the characters will eventually die when you think about it
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:06 (five years ago) link
Maybe at the end it can do a little white text on black screen explaining where they went to college etc
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
bran was the most sullen freshmen at evergreen stage college :P
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link
state :P
The Night King is married north of the wall.
He STILL doesn't like Valyrian steel!
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:11 (five years ago) link
Bran is Donnie Darko and I want a "Mad World" cut of that cheesy climax.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:15 (five years ago) link
Oh god.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link
Trying to think of further uses for Bran now. Hope we see Bran observing moments in Cersei's past to try and gain an advantage. Maybe he will check out those elephants. Presumably he won't have any need to warg a dragon now.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 09:08 (five years ago) link
Has the Martin timeline looked into the future of these kingdoms much or would that have been seen as too much spoiler?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 09:32 (five years ago) link
Watched the with on Apple TV on a 10-year-old 32 inch telly, it all seemed fine. There were some dark & confusing bits but it seemed like they were clearly meant to be confusing "thick of the battle" type moments?
I mean, compared to the bright daylight mess of every Marvel movie conclusion, everything here seemed pretty legible and easy to follow.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 11:56 (five years ago) link
The dragon stuff was extremely difficult to follow but that seemed more a direction problem than lighting.Completely baffled by some of the reactions to the battle on the ground though. It wasn’t that confusing (yes Jorah was in the charge?!?!) and to the extent it was it was pretty clearly a (legitimate, effective) stylistic choice.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link
Sam fending off wave after wave of zombies
maybe it was my viewing environment, but it seemed like every time they cut to him, another character was saving his ass, and he seemed just about to eat it the last time?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
I will retract my complaints if the next ep opens with his weepy deathologue
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
(yes Jorah was in the charge?!?!) >I didn't see how he survived when it seemed like pretty much everybody in that charge appeared to be automatic cannon fodder or corpse fodder or whatever.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
he dropped back in the formation, then rode back ...
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
important update: I was behind a porsche with a truncated misspelling of "khaleesi" on the license plate yesterday
did not see whether daenerys was driving
― mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link
Jorah led the charge initially, then there was a specific shot of him being passed by faster dothraki riders, who then rode up to the lead. So he got points for bravery for leading, then got himself an escape hatch.
― omar little, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link
― Stevolende, Wednesday, May 1, 2019 9:21 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark
a number of the riders from that charge came retreated and came back to the lines looking deflated
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
If you turn the brightness all the way up on the shot with Arya and Sansa observing the Dothraki charge from winterfell, you can see that Jorah is only rising at 95% speed
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
Unfortunate typo there but still an impressive rise %, all considering
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
btw there's a split second, marking the gear shift from 'we are charging' to 'we are dying', where you see the foremost Dothraki rider suddenly come up against the zombie giant, an 'ulp' moment where he is clearly looking up at something much larger than himself
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
can't believe no one has mentioned Insane Clown Posse and Juggalos and that Jorah wasn't in the front of the dothraki line the whole time in this thread
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
woop woop Dothraki
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
haha
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
Jorggahlos
― i got bag sauce in my bag (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
Khal Faygo missed the boat to Westeros and now rules the Great Grass Sea
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link
obligatory "Nedden Stark" joke goes here
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
fukkin maesters how do they work
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
legit lol at Khal Faygo
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link
same
― mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link
Sorry gotta link this one here
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bjkyln/so_we_go_into_hbo_and_tell_them_bran_has_an_idea/
― Evan, Thursday, 2 May 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link
I still don't get why people are so upset about Bran not using some super magical powers, because... A) Bran's powers have been shown to be fairly limited. He can see the past, and he can warg into animals, maybe humans too, though Hodor may have been a special case. It's never been implied he could warg into wights (who have no mind to take control of), including the wight dragon, or into the White Walkers. (If he had that ability, surely he would've used it when the wights were about to kill him and his friends when they were beyond the Wall.) So, what were people expecting, that Bran would pull some never-before-seen offensive magic out of his ass to kill the Night King. Wouldn't that have been a total deus ex machina ending, much more so than the current one is? B) The good guys' plan was clearly laid out in the previous episode: use Bran as a bait so the Night King will personally come into the Kingswood, then kill him. Okay, dragonfire didn't work like they thought it wood, but they know Valyrian steel can kill the White Walkers. And Bran could probably sense Arya running into the Godswood, armed with a Valyrian steel dagger Bran had given to her. So in the end everything more or less went according to the plan, one that was suggested by Bran himself. What else should Bran have done, since his plan worked?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 05:43 (five years ago) link
Somehow I feel people have gotten so used to "clever" plot twists, where some mastermind is revealed to have had a secret plan all along, that they project those expectations even into stories where there is no reason to expect such a twist. GoT's plot twists have mostly been about someone unexpectedly using brutal violence to kill their opponents, not about some intricate master plans.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 05:48 (five years ago) link
He was helped warging into Hodor as well right, by the 3ER?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:12 (five years ago) link
Otherwise I agree T, I've been reading the butthurt book fans on /r/asoiaf and theyre all acting like this
http://i.imgur.com/0nHkcg4.png
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:14 (five years ago) link
I'm assuming there are a bunch of 'I'm going to go now' memes out there?
― kinder, Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:20 (five years ago) link
...my planet needs me
(yes)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:29 (five years ago) link
― Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:22 (five years ago) link
But yeah, we clearly saw that the previous One-Eyed Raven was mostly helpless against the wight/White Walker attack, there was nothing he could do against them, and they killed him. And that dude had been the OER for ages, so why would Bran fare any better in a straight fight with them?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:26 (five years ago) link
The problem with Bran is that he's a perfect storm of bad/uncharismatic actor, creepy/boring character and clunky expository/plot device. Even though he's been there from day one the warg incarnation has turned him into the GoT equivalent of Jacob from lost, basically.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:46 (five years ago) link
Nobody actually wants all this to be the result of a magic mastermind who has been pulling strings from decades before he was born. The Hodor 'reveal' was probably the lowest moment in the entire series and that's really saying something.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:50 (five years ago) link
Bran replying "chaos is a ladder" to Littlefinger justifies his entire arc
― nashwan, Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:07 (five years ago) link
I like bran since he became the three-eyed raven, he has a good vibe now
― ogmor, Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:13 (five years ago) link