Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Hmmm, headline a smidge out of context @jonoread ! I said I had sympathy with those who would want to see it on the ballot paper not that it should be! https://t.co/DKYBpa0evQ

— Heidi Allen MP (@heidiallen75) April 27, 2019

Good to clarify that their presumed first policy suggestion wasn’t a suggestion after all.

“I feel like we should be offering no-deal because to some people that is clean Brexit.”

Important semantic difference between “thinking” no deal should be on the ballot and “feeling” no deal should be on the ballot.

Sympathy with ppl who want the option to vote for no deal? Gtfo here!

"Too much thinking gives you wrinkles"

imo it should be no deal vs remain with nothing in between tbf

Brexit is a feeling.

I've not heard anyone with health conditions like diabetes or epilepsy stanning for a no deal option. Because it is a dangerous and irresponsible non-option that has been talked up by psycho disaster capitalists, and not something you'd expect to hear from the self-styled "remain-alliance" party. Well, not before you'd seen how they conducted themselves for the last few months.

my brother has type 1 diabetes. i want those to be the options because i want remain to win

This is just provably false: the quote was "I feel like we should be offering no-deal because to some people that is clean Brexit.” https://t.co/eXOIqlcWfb

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) April 27, 2019

It’s a totally vacuous vanity project and the sooner it’s over, the better.

I'm enjoying it tbh. That includes Heidi Allen's great hair, btw.

they are even making Farage look competent and relatively a Machiavellian genius. I really hated them at first, but they bring daily lolz now.

i want those to be the options because i want remain to win

cut out the middlemen don't have a vote at all

If no deal is not a referendum option, then it will seen by a large number of people as illegitimate, and that would fatally undermine any remain victory. I think what's needed is a preferential vote with three options - no deal, remain, and whatever eventually emerges from parliament. Voters mark them 1,2 and 3 and whatever option gets the least votes has its votes redistributed to the other two.

no deal has to be on any referendum or theres no point at all having one (ideal situation obv)

as long as anyone who actually votes for no deal get's a good shoeing and erased off the electoral register for any future votes, deported to Hartlepool, has an anatomical diagram of an arsehole tattooed onto their forehead ..etc..

lmao pic.twitter.com/b4VqhwvX3u

— 🤝 Aman 🌹 (@Aman_Sez) April 26, 2019

I haven’t watched HIGNFY in ages for reasons but Johnny Mercer’s appearance on there was absolutely terrible, am sure everyone has seen this clip but linked anyway:

Would it be fair to say that we saw more scrutiny of an MP in 2 mins of a comedy show last night than seen on many political news programmes in recent years❓

Imagine Ian Hislop chairing #bbcqt or hosting #bbcnewsnight❗️#JohnnyMercer #HIGNFY
pic.twitter.com/YXLQBosnZ3

— Bath Labour Party (@BathLabourParty) April 27, 2019

excruciatingly horrible program, but good watching corrupt soldier boy squirming in his own shit.

You cannot possibly denounce one side for being irresponsible and stupid and then advocate putting 'food and medical shortages, Y/N?' on the ballot paper.

yes, and no-deal brexit was not something that was campaigned on or voted for in the original ref. It's partly an impotent bargaining tool of May's + part disaster capitalists wet-dream outcome that nobody really wants, or if they do they need to start listening to some experts i.e. like people who understand how quickly the UK food imports/exports system would collapse with tarrifs/borders etc. etc ...

That poll showing poorer Leave voters were considerably more worried about the effects of a no deal than wealthier ones seemed important; if I was Labour I’d be driving that wedge home at every opportunity in the hopes of splitting that vote apart.

Back when I used to support it, I'd have said that not putting no-deal on the ballot paper was guaranteed to create a narrative that the UK could take back its rights and be a success, but The Establishment don't want that and will block it on all accounts - Zelda Zonk otm, basically.

Mind you, that was back when I thought it would lose a preferential vote.

AC Grayling currently pleading with CHUK to stand down from the European elections.

hate it when mom and dad fight

really? we used to popcorn.gif and egg em on

It’s absolutely amazing how much goodwill they’ve pissed away since they launched. That Lib Dem leak earlier in the week probably fucked them over with wavering LD voters/activists.

people still going on about the eaton/scruton thing. I’m old enough to remember when george eaton was a melt with one source who used to chat shit off the back of every PLP meeting

careful, Scotland, what you wish for, as John Harris is promising to be "back there in a flash" should there be another independence referendum https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/28/england-mess-scotland-splitting-away

surprised to find out he owned England tbh

xxp I remember when he tweeted that he had proof Corbyn voted Leave!

Like most Scottish ppl I didn't realise Scotland was such a liberal utopia until mr Harris told me it was. If that cunt can drive from London to Scotland in "a few hours" he has a future in Formula 1.

I'll pay him to ferry me back and forth, saves paying an arm and her leg to sit on a train for 5 hours or a coach for 10+ hours.

what does a country "pushing itself into the future" actually mean in real terms outside the world of frothy bullshit speak? When opinion pieces sound like politicians - it's a total fail.

But he's probably learning from the master of that genre - Polly Toynbee!

Can someone please help me with the etymology of 'melt'?

I'm sure someone else will give you a much more comprehensive guide, but for me it encompasses the ppl who are all but tories in party membership in uk politics, not tories in disguise tho cos that mean actually having a disguise!

I’d say: liberal people who clamour to object to anything to the left of them (usually people and sometimes policies) but who never object to anything to the right, see also: white people who cry when accused of racist speech or actions.

Nah it exists outside of political Twitter as well, although one of the most tiresome things about what passes for modern political discourse is when people complain that being called a melt is unreasonably abusive. It's about as offensive as calling someone a wally or a plonker.

xxxp https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/slugs-melts-inside-language-culture-corbynite-left/ I think a lot of the terms are also widely used on football twitter (apart from slug which is from the Office)

xp quite right, esp when those calling it “abuse” are often guilty of far worse themselves

xxp These are definitions! I don't know what the etymology is (or the start of the current usage in political twitter (etc)) but I assumed it was just an evolution of calling someone "soft".

yeah assume so, probably a reference to the soft left in this context/labour version of “wets”. From the article:

Zarb-Cousin describes a melt as “someone who parrots rhetorical devices”, while Frayne-Reid considers it to be “somebody who displays political cowardice”.

It refers to the soft left, especially in its willingness to compromise to get ahead in a mainstream media career.

“Melt has a lot more weakness to it than slug,” says Morris. “It gives in under pressure.”

i presumed it was to do with salt causing slugs to melt but can't find any evidence to back this up

it's unclear to me/ambiguous whether a melt is defined by having melted to mush themselves or melting the brains of whoever beholds them, medusa-style

it feels very drowned in sound

along with calling someone a cockbastard thundercunt bellsniff

I remember in the late 1990s one of the men's magazines tried to make "Soft Lad" a thing, proving that none of the editorial team had spent much time in the north west.

As far as i'm aware "melt" is reasonably long-standing cockney slang based on uselessness under pressure

Probably popularized more by stuff like Love Island than politics nerds on Twitter i'd've thought

melt
an absoulute complete fucking idiot
he/she is a melt

your a meltboy

shutup you melt
#melt#meltboy#idiot#prick#wanker
by annoymus November 30, 2007