Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

people getting married: SV, AF (presumably not to each other)
abusive alts of SV shitposting itt: me, comrade alphabet.

To prove this: Putin is...good.

Hope that clarifies matters.

congrats SV, AF and mr seumas milne

Comrades all!

I thought everyone already knew that SV was Mr Seumas Milne with his ability to stay calm when posting as he always does, not to mention his uncritical support for Russia? Anyway, the Lenin’s out of the tomb now. Thanks all, and congratulations to AF!

Anyway, I never watch QT, but I see that we have actors from Lord of the Rings talking up this kind of shit on the public broadcast? How fun and normal!

It is telling that whenever people put forth this argument, it's black and brown people that need to stop breeding and not white western populations that need to stop consuming 10-20 times as much as those people do on a per capita basis https://t.co/vjLPMPR59V

— ctrl-alt-defeat (@AScribbledEagle) April 26, 2019

the paper trail has SV in Argentina right now, which makes me wonder if his various socks are currently there as well. worker cooperative hotbed so I hear

I've said it a hundred times, over-population zealots always seem to be worried about over-population by people who aren't like them

Otm. It’s actually made me incredibly uneasy about liking Utopia cos that scene in the bus station has more views on YouTube than anyone put together and they’re all...people like this. There’s huge crossover with the crowd noisily worrying about Muslim birthrates too.

What is it about this only moderately well-known actor that qualifies him to appear on Question Time? Other than the fact that he has a track record of racism and Islamophobia? I think I answered my own question.

t/s: solving inequality of access to resources vs genocide along ethnic lines

let sliders star john rhys-davies

When you gently try and explaim that the evidence points toward birth rate as a function of economic security rather than vice versa... Well, hwre we are, manifest destimy etc

Gotta get back to not-overpopulated Englande times when you could smoke anywhere and a child kicked a lump of coal in the street.

fuckin’ malthus, how does he work

Chapter 10,000 of These Cunts Will Get Us All Killed:

Change UK says no-deal Brexit should be on the ballot paper in a second referendum https://t.co/QR9yJNx9eR

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) April 26, 2019

more like lord of the rong amirite

maybe she's got nobody in her family who needs medicine - so nbd.

UK-wide referendum on the GFA is it

obvious vote-splitting tactic is obvious. but she's clearly imagining it will be a simple "majority wins outright" thing like the 1st time, whereas we have no idea at this stage if there would be runoffs to a second round, in which case, yeah, sheer irresponsibility. Have chuk even suggested a referendum mechanism yet?

She does actually talk about that (a bit) in the article, though.

Right, yeah, "three-stage voting process", fair enough.

the paper trail has SV in Argentina right now....

And wouldn’t you know it but a General Strike aiming to undermine the Macri government has just been called for the 30th of April. A remarkable coincidence.

Idk if there is a meaningful difference between CHUK policy and stuff that Heidi Allen thinks but it looks like she was spitballing in the interview. Given that it’s pretty much their only proposal, you’d have thought it would be a bit more solid at this stage.

woah kids, i just got picked up by the cops for walking along the road. on the other hand i got a lift home.

uk policing thread

always a better outcome than when they take you to a cell after inaccurately accusing you of repeatedly assaulting some dirty five-o scummers boot with your head:p

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/i-campaigned-for-change-uk-hoping-it-heralded-a-new-politics-i-was-wrong-htqq3bnnt

Lol.

From what I can see the principal achievement of CHUK has been to make the LibDems look good. Which is not to be underestimated but probably not what they set out for.

between that shower and those wise to Vince Cable, the only refuge for the "politically homeless" is now either the green party or maybe Chukka and pals will leave some of them so disaffected with the moderates they'll go full fash!

melts used to toy with the idea of a centrist Momentum, despite their obv strong desire to democratise/listen to their base, it just never seems to happen.

funny thing about CuKs is that even some of the uber-melts I thought would stick with them are turning against them such is the shiftiness of their game. Although the Graun still seem to be publishing CuK free ads not so cunningly disguised as content recently.

There is a remainer type academic on my twitter who you'd think might be a natural CuK fan, but she's going at them both guns, writing blistering pieces about them being an "affront to democracy".

Hmmm, headline a smidge out of context @jonoread ! I said I had sympathy with those who would want to see it on the ballot paper not that it should be! https://t.co/DKYBpa0evQ

— Heidi Allen MP (@heidiallen75) April 27, 2019

Good to clarify that their presumed first policy suggestion wasn’t a suggestion after all.

“I feel like we should be offering no-deal because to some people that is clean Brexit.”

Important semantic difference between “thinking” no deal should be on the ballot and “feeling” no deal should be on the ballot.

Sympathy with ppl who want the option to vote for no deal? Gtfo here!

"Too much thinking gives you wrinkles"

imo it should be no deal vs remain with nothing in between tbf

Brexit is a feeling.

I've not heard anyone with health conditions like diabetes or epilepsy stanning for a no deal option. Because it is a dangerous and irresponsible non-option that has been talked up by psycho disaster capitalists, and not something you'd expect to hear from the self-styled "remain-alliance" party. Well, not before you'd seen how they conducted themselves for the last few months.

my brother has type 1 diabetes. i want those to be the options because i want remain to win

This is just provably false: the quote was "I feel like we should be offering no-deal because to some people that is clean Brexit.” https://t.co/eXOIqlcWfb

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) April 27, 2019

It’s a totally vacuous vanity project and the sooner it’s over, the better.

I'm enjoying it tbh. That includes Heidi Allen's great hair, btw.

they are even making Farage look competent and relatively a Machiavellian genius. I really hated them at first, but they bring daily lolz now.

i want those to be the options because i want remain to win

cut out the middlemen don't have a vote at all

If no deal is not a referendum option, then it will seen by a large number of people as illegitimate, and that would fatally undermine any remain victory. I think what's needed is a preferential vote with three options - no deal, remain, and whatever eventually emerges from parliament. Voters mark them 1,2 and 3 and whatever option gets the least votes has its votes redistributed to the other two.

no deal has to be on any referendum or theres no point at all having one (ideal situation obv)

as long as anyone who actually votes for no deal get's a good shoeing and erased off the electoral register for any future votes, deported to Hartlepool, has an anatomical diagram of an arsehole tattooed onto their forehead ..etc..

lmao pic.twitter.com/b4VqhwvX3u

— 🤝 Aman 🌹 (@Aman_Sez) April 26, 2019

I haven’t watched HIGNFY in ages for reasons but Johnny Mercer’s appearance on there was absolutely terrible, am sure everyone has seen this clip but linked anyway:

Would it be fair to say that we saw more scrutiny of an MP in 2 mins of a comedy show last night than seen on many political news programmes in recent years❓

Imagine Ian Hislop chairing #bbcqt or hosting #bbcnewsnight❗️#JohnnyMercer #HIGNFY
pic.twitter.com/YXLQBosnZ3

— Bath Labour Party (@BathLabourParty) April 27, 2019

excruciatingly horrible program, but good watching corrupt soldier boy squirming in his own shit.

You cannot possibly denounce one side for being irresponsible and stupid and then advocate putting 'food and medical shortages, Y/N?' on the ballot paper.

yes, and no-deal brexit was not something that was campaigned on or voted for in the original ref. It's partly an impotent bargaining tool of May's + part disaster capitalists wet-dream outcome that nobody really wants, or if they do they need to start listening to some experts i.e. like people who understand how quickly the UK food imports/exports system would collapse with tarrifs/borders etc. etc ...