2020 Democratic presidential primary

Beto would set up an afterschool mentorship program where nazi youth could learn vocational skills such as screenprinting, flyering, booking all ages shows.

yeah i wouldn't worry about biden-- it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, April 22, 2019 12:47 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think you're right. Harris seems set on being the cipher that everyone can project their hopes onto, and in a crowded field that seems like a savvy place to be.

She’s doing such a good job that people are forgetting to mention her in polls

feeling primary angst because I want to vote for Warren, but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden. Someone talk me down.

The only method of voting for Warren is voting for Warren.

You can donate to her campaign to help her stay afloat, outlast the more frivolous candidates, and be mo re e likely to be an option when you end up voting.

idk, y'all, but Prosecutor Harris is way tougher than you're making her sound. I do sense traces of post-Clinton flim flammery though.

i wouldn't say she's a cipher-- not when she's standing next to beto-- but she is not a shamelessly aggressive redistributionist and shamelessly aggressive redistribution is the only serious antifascist game in town.

yes, she does care about shame, it's true

The problem with lawyers, especially lib ones, is the fetishizing of data and reason, and she doesn't sound irrational enough to give aspirational politics a try.

i have no problem with data and reason, she just seems to give off a studiously noncommittal-bordering-on-evasive vibe a lot of the time. my point was that might actually be a smart strategic play, especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz like "Hi I'm Mayor Pete"

well, warren is demonstrating we hardly need abandon data and reason-- but yes fetishizing them imo usually means fetishizing a particular version of them (or worse: a particular group of professional explainers of them) and imagining it's the only one. xp

i have no problem with data and reason, she just seems to give off a studiously noncommittal-bordering-on-evasive vibe a lot of the time. my point was that might actually be a smart strategic play, especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz like "Hi I'm Mayor Pete"

― Evans on Hammond (evol j),

In a field with 800 candidates, many of which are variants on Entenmann's Pound Cake, it pays to be manic. When Joe Geritol finally declares in October 2020, the fun will be gone.

especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz

yeah this is why i think of her as a frontrunner despite her current polling-- she seems better-placed than the various shiny objects ahead of her to end up the lib wing's clinton-succeeding standard-bearer after the gop-in-2012-style flurry has died down. could be wrong obv.

I get the sense that won’t work this year. The candidate wjo wins is going to have to really captivate voters

Thats why bernie, biden and buttigieg are doing well. Bernie is an america people who dared people to dream about a decent future; biden, whatever you think of him, is a comforting kind of figure for many, avuncular; and buttigieg is a boy genius in the mold of doogie howser which is a familair archetype to american voters.

I missed some words in there but im not running for anything so

I get the sense that "avuncular" means "thinking I can get away with patting women's asses."

A lot of americans want to think that about themselves.

one reason one of the Bs might vanquish her after all is that, i suspect, it's the very libs who were the most convinced last time that bernie support was sublimated sexism who have the coldest feet this time about nominating another woman

As fun as it is to be pessimistic I think it’s premature to be psychoanalyzing the false consciousness of the primary electorate

All the main women running have never lost a race before. Can't say the same about most of the men who seem to be in the "poll" leads.

I think it’s premature to be psychoanalyzing the false consciousness of the primary electorate

quite.

Biden to announce presidential run Wednesday in Charlottesville, Va., the site of a clash in August 2017 between white supremacists and counterprotesters that claimed one life, @PittsburghPG reports --> https://t.co/gME3sFhAQq via @PittsburghPG

— Adam Edelman (@abedelman) April 22, 2019

eurgh

But the real twist is that he's going to announce using a Tony Blair speech.

I'd be into it if he desecrates the Robert E Lee statue after he announces.

I would allow statue humping (not the horse though).

But the real twist is that he's going to announce using a Tony Blair speech.

fuck you joe

im so proud of my mom elizabeth warren

<3 thin lizzy

lmao

Several sources say the Biden announcement, which had been planned for Wednesday by video, has now been pushed back

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) April 22, 2019

It’s the Tristram Shandy of presidential runs: never even gets to the point of its own birth.

see, these are the fumbling moves that will charm his white, working class audience still using dial-up modems in western Pennsylvania

WATCH: Klobuchar pauses for CNN town hall audience: "That's when you guys are supposed to cheer, OK?" https://t.co/Q4pBXHUOu9 pic.twitter.com/OI47bRnXwB

— The Hill (@thehill) April 23, 2019

jeb law says she's gotta retire now

oof

the difference here is that anyone who's caught not cheering is gonna catch a fuckin beating

Harris up.

Q: Do you believe the Democrats in congress should reconsider their position on impeachment?

Harris: Well, it depends on who you're talking to! [laughter]

uh

boy, she's animated now.

Lol both Sanders and Harris are asked about one or another of Warren’s proposals and both go like “huh? Oh, yeah, sounds good, I’m down”

Jeb at least said please.

Say what you will about the Bush children, at least they were raised to say 'please' and 'thank you'. Except when issuing ultimatums of war on foreign nations.

I am imagining Klobuchar powerbombing hecklers

she's incredibly bad at this

I don't truly think I'll ever love anything or anyone as much as Dems love to lose. https://t.co/lCBvWsB1gD

— Jake Cole (@jake_p_cole) April 23, 2019

she's been pretty consistent with her "time to toughen up - life sucks" stance

she'd make a great veep for Biden

in hell