2020 Democratic presidential primary

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xp is “failing upward” the phrase I keep seeing recently?

Moulton: "Veterans aren't going to let themselves be defined by a draft dodger."

Oh yes they fucking ARE, and they have demonstrated that time and time again.

One wonders where he's been the last three years.

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Student loan debt is crushing millions of families. That’s why I’m calling for something truly transformational: Universal free college and the cancellation of debt for more than 95% of Americans with student loan debt. Read all about it here: https://t.co/IG9J5CiNb7

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) April 22, 2019

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imo she kicks goddamn ass

HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

Q: HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

A: The Federal Reserve government has been fattening up the banking system for more than a decade now and it's about time those financial institutions took a haircut on student loans.

Q: HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

Some people will say we can’t afford this plan. That’s nonsense. The entire cost of my broad debt cancellation plan and universal free college is more than covered by my Ultra-Millionaire Tax — a 2% annual tax on the 75,000 families with $50 million or more in wealth. For decades, we’ve allowed the wealthy to pay less while burying tens of millions of working Americans in education debt. It’s time to make different choices.

hmm, that's nice elizabeth warren, but beto has a nice ass, mayor pete uses complete sentences, and joe biden stood near obama

I really take offense that you said Beto has a nice ass. You could probably spackle a wall with that thing.

I'm currently feeling primary angst because I want to vote for Warren, but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden. Someone talk me down.

it's easy: vote for the person you want in the primary

I want Warren, but if Biden and Sanders are way ahead, I don't want to shave away votes from Sanders.

and the gaming out of who effectively gets your vote depends on where you live and when you participate in the primary/caucus. but yeah, vote for the person you want!

I asked my spouse this weekend who he thought I would be voting for. He got it right on the 3rd try (after saying Buttig and Harris). I still may divorce him.

Yeah, guess I can worry about it more when it's actually time to vote. I really wish Warren had a higher profile right now.

but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden

gonna ask this again: did biden announce

biden candidacy a huge hilarious joke until further notice

I'll talk you down: the idea that it's Bernie vs Biden (if that's what you have in mind) is based on pure name recognition, because the election is very far away. They both have a chance to be the nominee but it's just as likely to be someone else.

Biden is announcing this week

xp

Looking forward to the race tightening up

yeah i wouldn't worry about biden-- it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

thinking about blowing off my loan payment this month and just mailing it to liz.

fuck biden

i've gone from "eh i don't really think warren could win this" to "let ensure that warren wins this" she really exposes the others as mostly lightweights or neoliberals.

bernie is too old imo

She's actually doing the work while a lot of the others are still writing in their dream journals.

My top two were Harris followed by Warren. That’s flipped now.

at this point in 2015 the leading GOP candidate was Scott Walker

even Bernie staffers are impressed

I’ve paid off over $70,000 in student loans. I hope no one else ever has to.

— Every Billionaire Is A Policy Failure (@DanRiffle) April 22, 2019

That's the thing though, Warren is doing a great job, and it's barely making a ripple.

it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

I have no idea wtf this means

it means that i don't think presidents biden or harris would halt our democratic collapse or be able to defend us against a post-trump fascism. warren or sanders otoh would asphyxiate the next nazi.

hopefully they'll be skilled at delegating nazi asphyxiation to underlings

[warren releases 50-page analysis of nazi respiratory systems]

Beto says he'd strangle Nazis if we were starting from scratch, but wants to preserve the existing plan of waiting for them to take over half of Europe before we attack

Beto would set up an afterschool mentorship program where nazi youth could learn vocational skills such as screenprinting, flyering, booking all ages shows.

yeah i wouldn't worry about biden-- it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, April 22, 2019 12:47 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think you're right. Harris seems set on being the cipher that everyone can project their hopes onto, and in a crowded field that seems like a savvy place to be.

She’s doing such a good job that people are forgetting to mention her in polls

feeling primary angst because I want to vote for Warren, but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden. Someone talk me down.

The only method of voting for Warren is voting for Warren.

You can donate to her campaign to help her stay afloat, outlast the more frivolous candidates, and be mo re e likely to be an option when you end up voting.

idk, y'all, but Prosecutor Harris is way tougher than you're making her sound. I do sense traces of post-Clinton flim flammery though.

i wouldn't say she's a cipher-- not when she's standing next to beto-- but she is not a shamelessly aggressive redistributionist and shamelessly aggressive redistribution is the only serious antifascist game in town.

yes, she does care about shame, it's true

The problem with lawyers, especially lib ones, is the fetishizing of data and reason, and she doesn't sound irrational enough to give aspirational politics a try.

i have no problem with data and reason, she just seems to give off a studiously noncommittal-bordering-on-evasive vibe a lot of the time. my point was that might actually be a smart strategic play, especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz like "Hi I'm Mayor Pete"

well, warren is demonstrating we hardly need abandon data and reason-- but yes fetishizing them imo usually means fetishizing a particular version of them (or worse: a particular group of professional explainers of them) and imagining it's the only one. xp

i have no problem with data and reason, she just seems to give off a studiously noncommittal-bordering-on-evasive vibe a lot of the time. my point was that might actually be a smart strategic play, especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz like "Hi I'm Mayor Pete"

― Evans on Hammond (evol j),

In a field with 800 candidates, many of which are variants on Entenmann's Pound Cake, it pays to be manic. When Joe Geritol finally declares in October 2020, the fun will be gone.

especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz

yeah this is why i think of her as a frontrunner despite her current polling-- she seems better-placed than the various shiny objects ahead of her to end up the lib wing's clinton-succeeding standard-bearer after the gop-in-2012-style flurry has died down. could be wrong obv.

I get the sense that won’t work this year. The candidate wjo wins is going to have to really captivate voters

Thats why bernie, biden and buttigieg are doing well. Bernie is an america people who dared people to dream about a decent future; biden, whatever you think of him, is a comforting kind of figure for many, avuncular; and buttigieg is a boy genius in the mold of doogie howser which is a familair archetype to american voters.

I missed some words in there but im not running for anything so