2020 Democratic presidential primary

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GOT is just tiding her over til Ballers comes back

person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 03:55 (seven years ago)

Seth Moulton '20: feel the moultmentum

moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 April 2019 13:11 (seven years ago)

Hot as Moulton Lava

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2019 13:20 (seven years ago)

I loved his disco remixes!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2019 13:22 (seven years ago)

for guys like Moulton, Ryan and Swalwell, this has to a branding exercise. Either that or they think people are going to literally blindfold themselves and throw darts at the ballot.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2019 13:27 (seven years ago)

to paraphrase a source I daren't cite here, they all figured out there's no longer a lasting downside to running for President and losing.

Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)

xp is “failing upward” the phrase I keep seeing recently?

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:54 (seven years ago)

Moulton: "Veterans aren't going to let themselves be defined by a draft dodger."

Oh yes they fucking ARE, and they have demonstrated that time and time again.

One wonders where he's been the last three years.

moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 April 2019 15:19 (seven years ago)

banger

Student loan debt is crushing millions of families. That’s why I’m calling for something truly transformational: Universal free college and the cancellation of debt for more than 95% of Americans with student loan debt. Read all about it here: https://t.co/IG9J5CiNb7

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) April 22, 2019

... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Monday, 22 April 2019 15:33 (seven years ago)

🤟

gbx, Monday, 22 April 2019 15:35 (seven years ago)

imo she kicks goddamn ass

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2019 15:36 (seven years ago)

HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2019 15:38 (seven years ago)

Q: HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

A: The Federal Reserve government has been fattening up the banking system for more than a decade now and it's about time those financial institutions took a haircut on student loans.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:10 (seven years ago)

Q: HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

Some people will say we can’t afford this plan. That’s nonsense. The entire cost of my broad debt cancellation plan and universal free college is more than covered by my Ultra-Millionaire Tax — a 2% annual tax on the 75,000 families with $50 million or more in wealth. For decades, we’ve allowed the wealthy to pay less while burying tens of millions of working Americans in education debt. It’s time to make different choices.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:32 (seven years ago)

hmm, that's nice elizabeth warren, but beto has a nice ass, mayor pete uses complete sentences, and joe biden stood near obama

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:33 (seven years ago)

I really take offense that you said Beto has a nice ass. You could probably spackle a wall with that thing.

Yerac, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:37 (seven years ago)

I'm currently feeling primary angst because I want to vote for Warren, but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden. Someone talk me down.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:39 (seven years ago)

it's easy: vote for the person you want in the primary

gbx, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:40 (seven years ago)

I want Warren, but if Biden and Sanders are way ahead, I don't want to shave away votes from Sanders.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:41 (seven years ago)

and the gaming out of who effectively gets your vote depends on where you live and when you participate in the primary/caucus. but yeah, vote for the person you want!

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:41 (seven years ago)

I asked my spouse this weekend who he thought I would be voting for. He got it right on the 3rd try (after saying Buttig and Harris). I still may divorce him.

Yerac, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:43 (seven years ago)

Yeah, guess I can worry about it more when it's actually time to vote. I really wish Warren had a higher profile right now.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:43 (seven years ago)

but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden

gonna ask this again: did biden announce

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:44 (seven years ago)

biden candidacy a huge hilarious joke until further notice

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:44 (seven years ago)

I'll talk you down: the idea that it's Bernie vs Biden (if that's what you have in mind) is based on pure name recognition, because the election is very far away. They both have a chance to be the nominee but it's just as likely to be someone else.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:44 (seven years ago)

Biden is announcing this week

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:45 (seven years ago)

xp

Looking forward to the race tightening up

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:46 (seven years ago)

yeah i wouldn't worry about biden-- it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:47 (seven years ago)

thinking about blowing off my loan payment this month and just mailing it to liz.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:48 (seven years ago)

fuck biden

i've gone from "eh i don't really think warren could win this" to "let ensure that warren wins this" she really exposes the others as mostly lightweights or neoliberals.

bernie is too old imo

marcos, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:49 (seven years ago)

She's actually doing the work while a lot of the others are still writing in their dream journals.

Yerac, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:51 (seven years ago)

My top two were Harris followed by Warren. That’s flipped now.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:55 (seven years ago)

at this point in 2015 the leading GOP candidate was Scott Walker

frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:56 (seven years ago)

even Bernie staffers are impressed

I’ve paid off over $70,000 in student loans. I hope no one else ever has to.

— Every Billionaire Is A Policy Failure (@DanRiffle) April 22, 2019

Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 16:58 (seven years ago)

That's the thing though, Warren is doing a great job, and it's barely making a ripple.

it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

I have no idea wtf this means

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:02 (seven years ago)

it means that i don't think presidents biden or harris would halt our democratic collapse or be able to defend us against a post-trump fascism. warren or sanders otoh would asphyxiate the next nazi.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:07 (seven years ago)

hopefully they'll be skilled at delegating nazi asphyxiation to underlings

Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 17:09 (seven years ago)

[warren releases 50-page analysis of nazi respiratory systems]

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:10 (seven years ago)

Beto says he'd strangle Nazis if we were starting from scratch, but wants to preserve the existing plan of waiting for them to take over half of Europe before we attack

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:13 (seven years ago)

Beto would set up an afterschool mentorship program where nazi youth could learn vocational skills such as screenprinting, flyering, booking all ages shows.

Yerac, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:20 (seven years ago)

yeah i wouldn't worry about biden-- it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, April 22, 2019 12:47 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think you're right. Harris seems set on being the cipher that everyone can project their hopes onto, and in a crowded field that seems like a savvy place to be.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

She’s doing such a good job that people are forgetting to mention her in polls

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:10 (seven years ago)

feeling primary angst because I want to vote for Warren, but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden. Someone talk me down.

The only method of voting for Warren is voting for Warren.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:14 (seven years ago)

You can donate to her campaign to help her stay afloat, outlast the more frivolous candidates, and be mo re e likely to be an option when you end up voting.

moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:03 (seven years ago)

idk, y'all, but Prosecutor Harris is way tougher than you're making her sound. I do sense traces of post-Clinton flim flammery though.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:08 (seven years ago)

i wouldn't say she's a cipher-- not when she's standing next to beto-- but she is not a shamelessly aggressive redistributionist and shamelessly aggressive redistribution is the only serious antifascist game in town.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:13 (seven years ago)

yes, she does care about shame, it's true

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:14 (seven years ago)

The problem with lawyers, especially lib ones, is the fetishizing of data and reason, and she doesn't sound irrational enough to give aspirational politics a try.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:15 (seven years ago)

i have no problem with data and reason, she just seems to give off a studiously noncommittal-bordering-on-evasive vibe a lot of the time. my point was that might actually be a smart strategic play, especially for someone who may not have a huge national profile but also has clearly spent a long time building up to this moment and doesn't really need to go on a media blitz like "Hi I'm Mayor Pete"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:23 (seven years ago)


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