2020 Democratic presidential primary

If that result can be fathomed at all, the only sense I can make of it is to guess that these are voters who have a hard time distinguishing Elizabeth Warren from Hillary Clinton, and there's a good dose of misogyny at work in their conflation of the two.

Lol, 12% of Warren voters would vote Trump over Warren

Lets put this poll in the trash

That same poll apparently showed that 40% of Booker voters, 40% of Buttigieg voters, and 12% of Warren primary voters somehow would vote for Trump over Warren in the general. So maybe not a good basis for anyone to be drawing any conclusions from

― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), 21. april 2019 07:43 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The number for Buttigieg is less than 10%, for Booker it's 33,3% but that is 2 out of 6. It's 1/8th of Warren voters as well, and it might be explained by Trump fans who thinks she's the weakest candidate?

Also, a hearty lol at this poll being shot down because it shows something bad for Bernie. Simon posted it before because it seemed to show Bernies voters were the most diverse.

oh stop it, you saw the sample size

good morning!

Since when did serving as vice president prove good positioning to be elected president?

It gives you decent positioning to win your party's nomination next time: in the last 50 years, Humphrey, Mondale, Bush, Gore. If you add running-for-VP (and an extra two decades...), Dole. Getting elected, no.

Would Biden be running if he hadn't been veep?

His first run was in '88.

The poll is pissweak, but if you've been on the internet the last three years, you know that Berniebros are a real thing (nb "a real thing" /= "the majority of Bernie's support").

A Bernie endorsement of Warren would switch more of those dipshits, whose votes still count, to Warren than would a head-to-head defeat of Bernie by Warren.

The story of Warren’s awakening—from a true believer in free markets to a business-bashing enforcer of fair markets; from a moderate Republican who occasionally missed an election to one of the most liberal senators in America vying to lead the Democratic Party—breaks the mold of the traditional White House contender and is key to understanding how she sees the world: with a willingness to change when presented with new data, and the anger of someone who trusted the system and felt betrayed.

Warren herself says that in her early academic work she was merely following the dominant theory of the time, which emphasized the efficiency of free markets and unrestrained businesses, rather than holding strong conservative beliefs herself. Still, she acknowledged in our interview that she underwent a profound change in how she viewed public policy early in her academic career, describing the experience as “worse than disillusionment” and “like being shocked at a deep-down level.”

Her conversion was ideological before it turned partisan. The first shift came in the mid-’80s, as she traveled to bankruptcy courts across the country to review thousands of individual cases—a departure from the more theoretical academic approach—and saw that Americans filing for bankruptcy more closely resembled her own family, who struggled financially, rather than the irresponsible deadbeats she had expected.

It wasn’t until Warren was recruited onto a federal commission to help reform the bankruptcy code in the mid-1990s—and then fought for those reforms and lost that battle in 2005—that she became the unapologetic partisan brawler she was in creating the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, serving in the Senate and, now, stumping on the 2020 campaign trail. “I realize nonpartisan just isn’t working,” she recalls of that second conversion moment. “By then it’s clear: The only allies I have are in the Democratic Party, and it’s not even the majority of Democrats.”

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/12/elizabeth-warren-profile-young-republican-2020-president-226613

<3

I want to see President Warren happen

“I realize nonpartisan just isn’t working,” she recalls of that second conversion moment. “By then it’s clear: The only allies I have are in the Democratic Party, and it’s not even the majority of Democrats.”

MY MA'AM

I don't know if Howard Schultz has settled on a campaign slogan yet, but "...the majority of Americans are Americans" is certainly a choice pic.twitter.com/LBImTznAuh

— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) April 20, 2019

We're supposed to read that slogan as incredibly dumb rather than incredibly sinister, right?

it's an aesthetic dereliction there that the model is not smirking dementedly on her left side only

Irresponsible deadbeats deserve compassion too!!!!!

Damn she's really gunning for the zeitgeist

https://www.thecut.com/amp/2019/04/elizabeth-warren-review-game-of-thrones-season-8.html

she should start a tv recap site with kareem abdul-jabbar

oh no lizbeth

GOT is just tiding her over til Ballers comes back

Seth Moulton '20: feel the moultmentum

Hot as Moulton Lava

I loved his disco remixes!

for guys like Moulton, Ryan and Swalwell, this has to a branding exercise. Either that or they think people are going to literally blindfold themselves and throw darts at the ballot.

to paraphrase a source I daren't cite here, they all figured out there's no longer a lasting downside to running for President and losing.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S06E22/1080662.jpg?b64lines=IEhFTExPLiBUSElTIElTIG1vdWx0b24KIElOIFRIRSBNT1JOSU5HLiAKR09PRCBtb3VsdG9uIFRPIFlPVS4=

xp is “failing upward” the phrase I keep seeing recently?

Moulton: "Veterans aren't going to let themselves be defined by a draft dodger."

Oh yes they fucking ARE, and they have demonstrated that time and time again.

One wonders where he's been the last three years.

banger

Student loan debt is crushing millions of families. That’s why I’m calling for something truly transformational: Universal free college and the cancellation of debt for more than 95% of Americans with student loan debt. Read all about it here: https://t.co/IG9J5CiNb7

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) April 22, 2019

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imo she kicks goddamn ass

HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

Q: HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

A: The Federal Reserve government has been fattening up the banking system for more than a decade now and it's about time those financial institutions took a haircut on student loans.

Q: HOW IS SHE GONNA PAY FOR IT HUH HUH

Some people will say we can’t afford this plan. That’s nonsense. The entire cost of my broad debt cancellation plan and universal free college is more than covered by my Ultra-Millionaire Tax — a 2% annual tax on the 75,000 families with $50 million or more in wealth. For decades, we’ve allowed the wealthy to pay less while burying tens of millions of working Americans in education debt. It’s time to make different choices.

hmm, that's nice elizabeth warren, but beto has a nice ass, mayor pete uses complete sentences, and joe biden stood near obama

I really take offense that you said Beto has a nice ass. You could probably spackle a wall with that thing.

I'm currently feeling primary angst because I want to vote for Warren, but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden. Someone talk me down.

it's easy: vote for the person you want in the primary

I want Warren, but if Biden and Sanders are way ahead, I don't want to shave away votes from Sanders.

and the gaming out of who effectively gets your vote depends on where you live and when you participate in the primary/caucus. but yeah, vote for the person you want!

I asked my spouse this weekend who he thought I would be voting for. He got it right on the 3rd try (after saying Buttig and Harris). I still may divorce him.

Yeah, guess I can worry about it more when it's actually time to vote. I really wish Warren had a higher profile right now.

but I'm worried that will effectively translate into a vote for Biden

gonna ask this again: did biden announce

biden candidacy a huge hilarious joke until further notice

I'll talk you down: the idea that it's Bernie vs Biden (if that's what you have in mind) is based on pure name recognition, because the election is very far away. They both have a chance to be the nominee but it's just as likely to be someone else.

Biden is announcing this week

xp

Looking forward to the race tightening up

yeah i wouldn't worry about biden-- it's harris imo who has the best shot at being assigned to warm the seat for the next nazi.

thinking about blowing off my loan payment this month and just mailing it to liz.