US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

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collusion is stored in the balls

what a load of bullshit

xp barr and this whole ordeal is bullshit, not the collusion in the balls. that's just science

protest is like group therapy, makes everyone feel a little better. doesn't do shit politically. the biggest protests in history were against the iraq war

It works in some countries.

just lmao that they never got to interview Trump under oath

lmao that they *gave up even trying.*

Muellers explanation for why they stopped trying was... not satisfying.

I think I understand where he was coming from but it's as much overthinking as Comey did with equally self-defeating results.

In the introduction to section 2, the report states that though they accept the policy that a sitting president cannot be indicted, the investigation is preserving evidence while it is fresh in case the DOJ wants to prosecute Trump after he leaves office. That does not sound like Mueller punting anything to Barr, since presumably Barr will not be AG after Trump leaves office

god forbid they treat Trump the way they would literally any other human being on the planet

it really is maddening - every news outlet in the country treats Trump with kid gloves and "both sides" everything he does, which led directly to his election, and now he's too stupid and inept to be convinced of a crime

Again, the other way to look at is that he is sleazy and sketchy and fuck, which we all knew, but didn't do most of the shit he wanted to do because he is also stupid and inept, which we all suspected. But meanwhile there are 15 or so other investigations apparently in progress, and those involve hard numbers and facts, not discerning intent or whatever, and can't be interfered with the same way. And no way is congress done with its own investigations, not even including the prospect of impeachment. And there is another election looming. And he will still regardless be dead long before most of us. (which at this rate clearly just doomed me to an early demise.)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/17/kamala-harris-leads-campaign-money-race-1280546

donor class might be coalescing around Harris after all

― Simon H., Thursday, 18 April 2019

She makes most sense, especially given its likely to come down to head to head vs Bernie. If it ends up being vs Warren then Beto might me a more suitable choice, but that looks unlikely, and it doesn't really look like Beto is going to get any momentum, whereas Kamala's potential looks a lot more solid.

wrong thread sorry

The differences are stark between what Attorney General Barr said on obstruction and what Special Counsel Mueller said on obstruction. #MuellerReport

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) April 18, 2019

I suppose the reporter did back flips paraphrasing for the sake of the lede:

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway on Thursday compared special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation to a “political proctology exam” on President Trump who emerged from the metaphorical procedure unscathed.

And he will still regardless be dead long before most of us.

His parents lived to the ages of 93 and 88, so he'll be around a while yet. Admittedly as a drooling, senile, nappy-shitting wreck, but maybe someone in that state can still be prosecuted?

They weren’t obese speed freaks. Trump is on borrowed time healthwise

Eastwood's still allowed to make movies so idk

uuuugh, no, am i really here on the morning of the mueller report thinking about whether or not maybe trump will finally get in trouble when he's 90

...Sorry, is Conaway under the impression that proctology generally leaves patients scathed? If so, she might want to encourage her husband to shop around for someone who doesn't reduce his rectum to a blighted ruin.

@2600: OK, we'll probably regret this but we made a *searchable* PDF of the #MuellerReport available at https://2600.com/MuellerReport.pdf. Please share.

I got no hits with "piss"

try "urine" for a surprise hit

Try doodoo if u want the whole doc to open

Ah. TWO impeachment referrals today. https://t.co/sXJGmhMi24

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) April 18, 2019

Knew he was too good to be true.

wtf mayor pete

is it okay to admire the crispness of the Mueller team's prose? I'm reading this shit like it was Bernanos.

Worth reading:

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/04/a-massive-and-unbelievable-crime-on-a-scale-before-unseen

Is there perhaps an untranslatable German word which aptly describes the irony of engaging in full-bore criminality so as to put yourself in a position where you have become immune to the consequences of said full-bore criminality?

That word is likelier to be found in the Russian language.

i've generally been p skeptical that the report would turn up anything actionable but man

kind of agree that they should at least attempt impeachment

Taking a break from working at home (!) -- on paper... I heard spme NPR earlier. So how many besides Sotosyn are actually reading the whole thing?

I mean the thing is...the report seems to seriously call into question the legitimacy of the election. And if he was elected on the basis of super shady shit, I don't know how you can use his current status as a basis for abstaining from SOME sort of action. It's like if someone killed a dude before he was hired at a new job and showed up at his workplace assuming his identity and then all this shit came to light years later and the employer and authorities just throw their hands up and are like, 'well, he signed a contract with the guy's name, what can we even do?'

@dick_nixon these people, sir. these fucking people. pic.twitter.com/8rDZI00UFm

— Grant Alpaugh (@GrantAlpaugh) April 18, 2019

Guys I am not optimistic that Jared Kushner is going to deliver on that whole peace in the Middle East thing. pic.twitter.com/zyaLBkEKX3

— Jim Swift (@JimSwiftDC) April 18, 2019

All we have read so far says Mueller was deeply concerned with intent, as he should be, and took pains to look for mitigation where possible. But he did not find much. It does not so far say intent is almost impossible to prove without access to the witness.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) April 18, 2019

XPs You make him head of the Lucky Strike campaign.

A month ago I said on this board that Impeachment is a Political Act, therefore Pelosi was right to quash impeachment chatter at that moment.

It's April, and, fuck yes, this guy has to go even if it fails. Failure will not "embolden" the GOP. Failure to impeach the kind of lawlessness that would put get one of us burned alive and our smoking ashes sent to prison would be the failure.

I'm legit staggered by the level of criminality that Mueller reveals, and the prose in the report does not weasel. Each section summarizes what he concluded.

Does Pelosi's tweet today mean she is open to pursuing obstruction to possible impeachment, or am I confusing her with "like, 5 people"?

It takes a criminal, etc

To my fellow Republicans: Having read the Mueller report, you may decide that nothing in it requires or justifies the impeachment of Donald Trump. But, having read the report, do you have no qualms about deciding this man deserves our party's renomination as president?

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) April 18, 2019

Bill Weld not trending yet

We've all been there… pic.twitter.com/SXTPGuiphZ

— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) April 18, 2019

Fun to see this confirmed.

Sater wasn’t able to set up any meetings with the Russian government for Cohen so Cohen got frustrated and tried to go direct - by e-mailing Putin’s press secretary at his public contact address, which he misspelled so it didn’t reach him. It’s like emailing ‘Sarah.Sanders @ whitehouse.gob’ while trying to reach Trump.

I don't see Mitch ordering a hit on the Grifter so they can nominate Pence

xxp

I'm reading this shit like it was Bernanos.

come on, you'd read this if the prose was Jackie Susann

^that is the geekiest burn I've ever seen

is it? she was America's Most Popular Writer when I was a tot

these fucking people

“Based on what we have seen to date, going forward on impeachment is not worthwhile at this point. Very frankly, there is an election in 18 months and the American people will make a judgement,” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told @DanaBashCNN .

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) April 18, 2019