Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

If Labour went into an election promising to implement a Brexit deal that includes a customs union, its share of the vote would drop to 20%.

if you believe those numbers are an accurate

This is transparently fucking ridiculous

Altho "promising" and the nature of a promise are pretty meaningless there

well YouGov was co-founded by a current tory government minister, and is often dodgier than the other pollsters in recent history. But fuck them all until there is an election.

I'm holding out for "Fuck yer referendum and get it right up ye's, we're staying and that's that" party.

Didn't YouGov get it right last time? Having said that unless something major and unprecedented happens with the CUKs or LibDems then it's basically nonsense.

if you believe those numbers are an accurate indication of what would actually happen in an election, then this seems like a argument in favour of a second referendum?

I believe pigs can fly 🐖

They predicted a hung parliament but survation was closest to the %s

I mean every single variant of Brexit is unpopular enough to be rejected by the public and Parliament but there's probably a process of elimination that needs to happen first.

"It’s really stupid though, like vegetarian cyclist who grows his own food and wears the same clothes for decades is worse than this crowd, what’s the issue like? Does he have too many children or something?"

Five trips a year to bro down with Hamas doesn't half play havoc with your carbon footprint.

Channel 4 News investigation reveals how Arron Banks' pro-Brexit group Leave EU faked a migrant-crossing video and appeared to have staged photos of migrants attacking women in London.

Watch the full report at 7pm on Channel 4. https://t.co/IC53CKIOMV

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) April 16, 2019

Fuck it, second referendum now and a third and a fourth until these cunts lose.

Rather they were prosecuted and jailed tbh

grim

Labour candidate punched in the face and told "you're a fucking traitor, you should be hanged". Literally on the street I grew up on. pic.twitter.com/7MFy0Nco6a

— Adam 🌿🌳 (@softerhardleft) April 17, 2019

Ugh, third time trying to post this, it’s like the POST errors are trying to tell me to stop.

If anyone doesn’t get that at least part of Corbyn’s continual stressing that Labour will respect the result of the referendum was to offset the inevitable betrayal narrative, well, they don’t want to get it. Much easier to talk shit about Seumas Milne while Labour MPs are getting death threats and one of them has already been murdered.

much more of this and Labour suddenly pivoting to hard Remain might be an interesting move tbh

as Matt said, name it stop + fuck these cunts. it really can be played i think. a sort of magnificent heel turn

uh make it stop, I mean

A bit of levity: the protestors left Corbyn’s house:

Via @pa: When asked why they left, Tracee Williams, 55, said: “I don’t think this was a misstep but whether we’d do it again, I’m not so sure.

“We just really felt we had to bring it to his front door. I feel absolutely terrible about upsetting his wife.”

— Graeme Demianyk (@GraemeDemianyk) April 17, 2019

that’s quite sweet

windmill jolyon... remain are polling on 25%

In a referendum on Leave/Remain we'll count the votes for Leave and the votes for Remain. The European Parliamentary elections are a proxy Leave/Remain referendum. If you want to Remain make sure you vote for an unambiguously Remain party.

— Jo Maugham QC (@JolyonMaugham) April 17, 2019

this seemed like a more sensible analysis
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/04/why-european-elections-will-be-painful.html?m=1

Given Labour's position and the lack of cooperation among the anti-Brexit parties, Remainers should not turn these European elections into a vote about being anti-Brexit, because they will lose badly. The combined vote for UKIP, the new Brexit party and the Conservatives is almost certain to exceed the combined vote for the LibDems, CHUK and the Greens. A smarter tactic would be, through the People’s Vote campaign, to make these elections into a vote about a People’s vote. The key difference of course is that Labour can potentially be counted as being in favour of a People’s Vote, and so making the European elections as a kind of referendum on a People’s Vote might succeed. Using the poll numbers above, the pro-People’s Vote parties have an overall majority.

It does but ofc none of these cunts will do that because waaaah Mr Seumas Milne

The good news is that George Galloway and Labour are still never ever getting back together.

*Looks to camera* pic.twitter.com/U987MLYmUn

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) April 17, 2019

Seamus Milne - just one degree of separation from a nazi cunt .. oh sorry I forgot Farage is a centrist now.

It’s Mr Seumas Milne to you, son.

Comrade, surely?

Seaumus Alasdairevich

Please refer to the Gapes video I linked upthread for the canonical form of address.

xp nm, I was wrong.

You couldnae mark the back of Galloway's neck wi a blowtorch. Total chancer

Too kind imo

Is there any way to stop Brexit without a 2nd referendum? I think not, and on those pragmatic grounds, I'm in favour of a 2nd ref because Brexit is a fucking awful idea.

But referendums are largely shitty and inconsistent with parliamentary democracy and a change of this magnitude shouldn't be dependent on an uneven, borderline majority at a single point in time. Other countries do things differently - in Australia referendums need a double majority to win, ie an overall majority and a majority in each jurisdiction (states + territories). If that had applied in the UK, Brexit wouldn't have won as it didn't get a majority in Scotland or N. Ireland.

UK is a unitary state, aus is federal

The constituent parts of the UK have differing laws, their own legislative assemblies etc so I don't think the situation is that different.

why have extinction rebellion chosen an aesthetic that makes them look like a bunch of fascists pic.twitter.com/7NOAysfDnN

— GT (@granitetide) April 17, 2019

black and white, skulls and runic symbols? perfect for our climate change campaign!

— GT (@granitetide) April 17, 2019

yeah those aren’t runes. you could say the same thing about the anarchy symbol or the CND thing. that ‘x’ is an hourglass.

If you think skulls are cool, this is the campaign for you.

If you think skulls are terrifying, this is also the campaign for you.

The dissonance is what will power our vision of the future

Yeah, not runes but the skull plus stark geometric symbol = easy first impression

Runic Nick (xp)

I agree with ru, Nick.

The memento mori is making a comeback.

the fascists have all the good symbols, the runes, the norse stuff. we're left with the shitty rainbow unicorns.

i was just down at Oxford Circus. kind of sleepy, post-rave vibe. 90% crusty. someone reading poetry from the boat. some reporters milling about. great weather. the police standing back quite placidly, seemingly content to just let this go on. personally can't quite shake the children of men feeling - i.e. comin through, gotta get to work

> someone reading poetry from the boat

that'll teach em

dog-whistle paranoia has led us to a golden age of optics concern w/ ppl tutting 'nagl tbh' at things they don't have a problem w/ per se but that vaguely remind them of something associated w/ someone they actually object to

https://twitter.com/corbynfisher/status/1118798962855747584

https://twitter.com/corbynfisher/status/1118798962855747584

https://twitter.com/corbynfisher/status/1118798962855747584

Oh FFS I've broken ILX

An officer requested "Insomnia" by @faithless. The peaceful #ExtinctionRebellion protestors obliged and the #OxfordCircus party kicked off! | @LdnRebellion @ExtinctionR pic.twitter.com/tuBUbZmDrG

— (((woofboy))) (@woofboy) April 17, 2019