Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

it would solve *checks notes* uh it says here 'nothing'?

yes, close remain win definitely. the continuity remain forces who you would expect to lead any campaign have shown themselves to be politically adept in the interregnum since 2016 and all polling shows a strong remain lead in the high 60s so they would definitely win and it’s a great idea to have another referendum and at the same time all of the structural forces which led to the first vote (regional imbalances in the economy, depressed wages, systematic under employment, austerity fatigue etc) have all been comprehensively addressed and the far right is in disarray across europe, very poorly coordinated with no open channels between the retrograde forces across the continent and neither are they sharing strategies and ideas and messaging and

The self-appointed leaders of continuity remain are responding to two month old tweets from parody accounts, calling the people they need to win over stupid, and forming new ways to split the Remain vote. How does that translate into a Remain win, let alone a convincing one?

we should definitely do it again and see if we can get more than one mp killed this time around

it's particularly pathetic when you consider that remain (of some stripe) is the only credibly doable option left at this point

or indeed at any point

Does feel a lot like the pv headbangers have fucked it

if they make a lot of noise about treating the Euro elections as a de facto “soft referendum” and the various leave parties win out, what’s the response? Oh well that wasn’t a ~real~ ref2 nobody votes in those things anyway, we’d def win the next go-round?

And if Leave or no deal win by an even bigger margin?

Then the UK would Leave or No Deal, the worst game show. But No Deal won't win, and May's Deal won't win. If you're suggesting literally a ballot paper that says "Leave or Remain", then yeah, that would be dangerous - but also insane.

A lot of people here seem to like confusing the people in the march from the people at the head of it - I get that's a fun team-building exercise but I am not sure that I have to take it seriously?

It would have to be some type of Deal v Remain only - hope Labour pull back from their silly talks w/No 10 or else they’ll have to support Deal and that’s them fucked.

we should definitely do it again and see if we can get more than one mp killed this time around

Yes, the danger there will definitely be headed off by plunging into Brexit.

(apologies for contributing to the mountain of Sarcasm Wanking on this thread, but Jesus Christ)

is this posited second ref just another dumb leave y/n because obv thats pointless

tho i note that likeliness of success is now the bar we're setting i look fwd to raising my eyebrow across a number of ideological battles now i realise this

Some light relief

DCMS has just announced that the porn filters are coming online on July 15, in an email that cc's every media and technology journalist in Britain

— alex hern (@alexhern) April 17, 2019

The introduction of mandatory age verification is a world first,

Anyway, this is another Ashley Madison waiting to happen.

Also, I wouldn’t be surprised to see this get pushed back yet again.

we’ve taken the time to balance privacy concerns with the need to protect children from inappropriate content.

yeah but have you tho

Aww we are talking about a 2nd ref again how cute

nah we've moved on to pr0n now

prohibition 2: speakeasies but for

xxp porn for some, tedious hair splitting for others

and youda thought that waxing wouldve avoided all that these days

Anyway we know how this goes now: Brexit Party does really well in Euro election -> Tories freak out and go even more Hard Brexity -> more paralysis in Parliament, May clings on but can't do anything -> endless extensions -> election with Tories campaigning on an ultra-Brexity manifesto -> rest of the country goes "fuck no" -> Brexit Party win zero seats in GE.

I think this is all good for Labour but only if they resist getting dragged along in the tide.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/17/tories-sabotaged-britain-lets-join-their-party-conservative-leader

^ More light relief

"although it now stands at 124,000,"

is this figure actually correct? Now they have 67 000 dead members and plus 40k of neo-nazi entryists they aren't being so coy about the numbers any more, is it.

xp I know what the writer means but like it pains me that the Overton is so fucked that this isn’t already true

he thought of another unelected Tory prime minister – and this time in all likelihood a rightwing fanatic

it's funny how very thick it is, also funny that she identified the reason why her idea would never work ("Conservative MPs choose a final two contenders, and then it is up to the membership to elect their favourite.") and then just kept on typing like there was some point to continuing
it's not so funny that they decided to print it and put it in a highly visible place on the front page, just for hate clicks apparently

Been there, done that. But instead of "sabotaging" them I helped improve them, because I don't have a bad attitude.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) April 17, 2019

LOOOOOOOL

In their latest action @ExtinctionR say 4 activists have glued themselves to Jeremy Corbyn’s house. #ExtinctinRebellion pic.twitter.com/EomoI8ySvG

— Catrin Nye (@CatrinNye) April 17, 2019

that should do the trick, good work lads

middle class revolt

Release the bees, jez

the actual real DA activists i know haaaaaaate XR

Corbyn roaring up on his bike once he finds out they’ve damaged his climbing plants.

Jeremy #Corbyn walks out of his house past four #ExtinctionRebellion climate activists who glued themselves together @SWNS @ExtinctionR pic.twitter.com/IgU0YvRyU8

— Adam Gray (@agrayphoto) April 17, 2019

It’s really stupid though, like vegetarian cyclist who grows his own food and wears the same clothes for decades is worse than this crowd, what’s the issue like? Does he have too many children or something?

too risky to try to glue oneself to No 10

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/04/17/poll-briefing-brexit-dilemmas/

HOPE not hate asked YouGov to run a number of possible snap general election scenarios in which Labour took different Brexit position – and the results were startling:

If Labour went into a snap election offering the electorate a second referendum, then it would receive 31.5% of the public vote.
If Labour went into an election promising to implement a Brexit deal that includes a customs union, its share of the vote would drop to 20%.

if you believe those numbers are an accurate indication of what would actually happen in an election, then this seems like a argument in favour of a second referendum? particularly seeing as the other questions asked in that polling seem to indicate that a tory govt would be able to get away with anything other than a hard brexit

The Government and the opposition are currently in talks to solve the Brexit impasse, but given the huge gulf in attitudes between voters of the two main parties, it is hard to see how party leaders can reach an agreement without tearing their parties apart.

There are some basic Brexit realities that those Labour and Conservative politicians huddled around the negotiating table will only be too acutely aware of:

- the overwhelming majority of Conservative voters want to leave the EU and leave immediately, even if it is without a deal.
- the overwhelming majority of Labour voters want to Remain in the EU, by a margin of almost two to one would be happy for Parliament to Revoke Article 50, and they want any deal reached to be put to a referendum.

does all this make it more likely that there is some kind of realignment of the parties/national govt situation?

the talks were only ever just for show & a trap for both parties. they are now both seeking a pretext to collapse them in a way which damages the other

or at least doesn’t damage themselves

If Labour went into an election promising to implement a Brexit deal that includes a customs union, its share of the vote would drop to 20%.

if you believe those numbers are an accurate

This is transparently fucking ridiculous

Altho "promising" and the nature of a promise are pretty meaningless there

well YouGov was co-founded by a current tory government minister, and is often dodgier than the other pollsters in recent history. But fuck them all until there is an election.

I'm holding out for "Fuck yer referendum and get it right up ye's, we're staying and that's that" party.

Didn't YouGov get it right last time? Having said that unless something major and unprecedented happens with the CUKs or LibDems then it's basically nonsense.

if you believe those numbers are an accurate indication of what would actually happen in an election, then this seems like a argument in favour of a second referendum?

I believe pigs can fly 🐖

They predicted a hung parliament but survation was closest to the %s

I mean every single variant of Brexit is unpopular enough to be rejected by the public and Parliament but there's probably a process of elimination that needs to happen first.

"It’s really stupid though, like vegetarian cyclist who grows his own food and wears the same clothes for decades is worse than this crowd, what’s the issue like? Does he have too many children or something?"

Five trips a year to bro down with Hamas doesn't half play havoc with your carbon footprint.

Channel 4 News investigation reveals how Arron Banks' pro-Brexit group Leave EU faked a migrant-crossing video and appeared to have staged photos of migrants attacking women in London.

Watch the full report at 7pm on Channel 4. https://t.co/IC53CKIOMV

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) April 16, 2019

Fuck it, second referendum now and a third and a fourth until these cunts lose.