Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Labour’s cadre of bright young advisers immediately grasped the significance of the moment and at one conference party they launched into a refrain of “All options on the ta-ble”, to the tune of the White Stripes’ Seven Nation Army, to which a year earlier at Glastonbury the crowd had roared “Oh Jeremy Corbyn”.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

some great scaremongering about agent milne in that

Stephen Kinnock, who has worked with Powell’s common market group, said: “We could potentially be tipping over into a culture war.”

finger on the pulse, potentially

We should only ever refer to the eminence gris as “Mr Seumas Milne” in proper Gapes red-bashing style.

Mike Gapes today on Seumas Milne and Russia. pic.twitter.com/D9E1DKHojr

— Mr Kellie Strøm (@kelliestrom) September 6, 2018

What the hell is wrong with these people?

shd be the permanent thread title tbh

xxp one which he’s on the wrong side

.@SKinnock We must move away from multiculturalism and towards assimilation. We must stand for one group: the British people. #progpolitics

— Progress (@ProgressOnline) November 29, 2016

i feel like the clown has even gone quiet on that front in the last 12 months, like even his xenophobia was subject to whatever personal political gain he thought he could make with it that week

i'm sure he's still xenophobic on the quiet except possibly re: Danes

smart branding how his Twitter handle always makes me think of Superintendent Chalmers shouting "SKINNOCK!!" tho

i'm sure he's still xenophobic on the quiet except possibly re: Danes

― The Gapes of Wrath (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 09:04 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does every man grow to hate his wife

xp maybe his star turn in Labour: The Summer that Changed Everything shamed him into silence? Oh no, wait, didn’t he do that hunger strike for electoral reform?

oh you were applying the 'except' to the 'xenophobic', not the 'on the quiet' xp

does every man grow to hate his wife

Or Fred?

yeah i got no opinion on the state of Skinnock's marriage and wouldn't wish even his to be unhappy

Embryonic leadership pitch by Stephen Kinnock: "The British people care about 4 things. They care about work, family, community and country.

— Jane Merrick (@janemerrick23) May 5, 2017

why are you doing this... at any time

it has almost been worth having almost 10 years of tories just to see worthless, greasy, Blue Labour teflon slime like Cooper + Kinnock + friends being marginalised in the party, and things just not going how they arrogantly expected them to back in '15

well if they'd been in power it would've been barely distinguishable from the coalition or the Tories so yes, very much so

Kinnock's wife is the one who was presenting like a baboon at Mandela's funeral, yes?

maybe her focus groups said a selfie next to a festering stiff would give her an extra 2.7% approval rating!

xp bit misodge that post, if I'm honest. Desire to clown on Kinnock overrode better judgement

can't fully remember the story, but could her imagine her taking a selfie with a cadaver for some reason!

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/12/13/1386975470772/Helle-Thorning-Schmidt-po-009.jpg?width=300&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=8ea9cb17f60a71a4af527431189d560c

spot the person in the photograph with a shred of dignity.

just cos it's a funeral doesn't mean you're not there to schmooze

That's nice

European Parliament voting intention:

BREX: 27%
LAB: 22%
CON: 15%
GRN: 10%
LDEM: 9%
UKIP: 7%
CHUK: 6%

via @YouGov, 15 - 16 Apr

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) April 17, 2019

lovely stuff. it will go higher and augurs well for any potential second referendum

ukip clearly in desperate need of that sargon of akkad bump in the polls

I was talking to an otherwise intelligent person recently who didn't know there were European elections or how MEPs got to be MEPs, I think she thought they were appointed or something.

wrote:
... where is the Remain equivalent of this?

For months it has been obvious that these EU elections would come - it is why Farage registered his new party months ago - yet there seems to have been little action from the other side.

Where are the rallies? Where is the cross party agreement on a joint remain ticket?

Where are the posters? The agreed messaging?

The corralling of the newly empowered pro-European demos in this country?

The targeting of EU citizens with a vote?

think LG is overplaying farage’s position a little here (UKIP still polling at 7/8%) but these are all good questions for continuity remain
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-and-the-tiggers-need-to-get-real-116

Just casually waiting for anyone who was saying a second referendum was a good idea previously itt to comment

I don't agree with or particularly like Yvette Cooper and she's been a hugely damaging influence in the past (to say the least) but it's clear she's actually doing important and substantial things right now and working pretty well with the Labour front bench in the process. There's a vast gulf between her and attention-seeking bobbleheads like Chuka and Kinnock Jr.

(It might not be an ideological gulf but it is the difference between preening and actually getting things done)

I wouldn't accept an apology or anything less than ritual suicide for some of these damaging things she's said and done though. I've seen ruthless ex-convicts with a stronger moral compass than her, seriously.

Hi, a second referendum is a good idea.

Hi, it isn't if you lose it because the people co-ordinating the Remain campaign don't know their arse from their elbow.

lol we're all gonna die

Ratification similar to Good Friday Agreement style is a good idea, simply because most Leavers are afflicted with No True Brexit and it would serve them right for 40 years of wanting out but being too arrogant to have any concrete plan.

That I would agree with but only in the absence of a ticking clock.

Hi, a second referendum is a good idea.

when*

i disagree - close remain win imo

not that that would solve much

it would solve *checks notes* uh it says here 'nothing'?

yes, close remain win definitely. the continuity remain forces who you would expect to lead any campaign have shown themselves to be politically adept in the interregnum since 2016 and all polling shows a strong remain lead in the high 60s so they would definitely win and it’s a great idea to have another referendum and at the same time all of the structural forces which led to the first vote (regional imbalances in the economy, depressed wages, systematic under employment, austerity fatigue etc) have all been comprehensively addressed and the far right is in disarray across europe, very poorly coordinated with no open channels between the retrograde forces across the continent and neither are they sharing strategies and ideas and messaging and

The self-appointed leaders of continuity remain are responding to two month old tweets from parody accounts, calling the people they need to win over stupid, and forming new ways to split the Remain vote. How does that translate into a Remain win, let alone a convincing one?

we should definitely do it again and see if we can get more than one mp killed this time around

it's particularly pathetic when you consider that remain (of some stripe) is the only credibly doable option left at this point

or indeed at any point

Does feel a lot like the pv headbangers have fucked it

if they make a lot of noise about treating the Euro elections as a de facto “soft referendum” and the various leave parties win out, what’s the response? Oh well that wasn’t a ~real~ ref2 nobody votes in those things anyway, we’d def win the next go-round?

And if Leave or no deal win by an even bigger margin?

Then the UK would Leave or No Deal, the worst game show. But No Deal won't win, and May's Deal won't win. If you're suggesting literally a ballot paper that says "Leave or Remain", then yeah, that would be dangerous - but also insane.

A lot of people here seem to like confusing the people in the march from the people at the head of it - I get that's a fun team-building exercise but I am not sure that I have to take it seriously?

It would have to be some type of Deal v Remain only - hope Labour pull back from their silly talks w/No 10 or else they’ll have to support Deal and that’s them fucked.

we should definitely do it again and see if we can get more than one mp killed this time around

Yes, the danger there will definitely be headed off by plunging into Brexit.

(apologies for contributing to the mountain of Sarcasm Wanking on this thread, but Jesus Christ)