2020 Democratic presidential primary

"The Sacking of the Masonic Temple in Jersey by the Nazis in 1941," currently selling used for $103.95 on amazon

i'm gonna go ahead and assume it's not our dennis who wrote this one?

cuz i didnt write Mr. Mike!

are you saying that Perrin deserves to never get blown because he wrote Mr Mike

we're all trying to work with you here

Did he write Channing Tatum's obliques or were they already like that?

morbs just admitted he is andrew yang you all saw it

People who still admire Michael O'Donoghue > people who still admire Bill Hicks

But not by much.

Elizabeth Warren dropped two excellent policy ideas today, and the New York Times is publishing articles about what Neera Tanden said to her mom about Bernie Sanders. Super excited to relive all the bullshit of 2016!

— Amy Hartman (@ameseh) April 16, 2019

Rebecca Solnit has been tying herself into knots on FB for two weeks angry that Buttigieg is getting coverage when Warren isn't. Ok fine, but as a white woman who positions herself as an ally to Native Americans she never once gave NA activists any thread time when they were pissed at Warren for playing into Trump's hands on identity, so to her I say "give me a fucking break". Liberal purity tests are gong to fucking kill me this time around.

I'm already dead this time around.

I bought a Warren t-shirt, though, since my vote couldn't count less where I live.

I have to say the Kamala Harris hoodies look good.

tying herself into knots on FB for two weeks angry that Buttigieg is getting coverage when Warren isn't.

As long as she directs her anger at the media instead of Buttigieg. Trying to get as much free media attention as possible is what every candidate does and expecting any candidate to do anything else would be stupid. This has nothing to do with Buttigieg's 'purity', only the choices made by producers or editors.

There's more info out now about candidate donation #s.

the NYT did cover Warren's policy ideas

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-public-lands.html

Buttigieg's asked what song describes his life and he mentions Everlast's "What it's like" as one that doesn't necessarily describe his life, but describes "the way we should come to politics" https://t.co/ZLvRAnhVG4

— Alexandra Jaffe (@ajjaffe) April 16, 2019

i'm skeptical of the Estab embracing Bern.

I'm not. Sanders's program is just not that different from what Democratic voters and politicians stump for anyway (just like Trump's program is not that different from what Republican voters and politicians stump for anyway) And Sanders, unlike Trump, is not a lifelong dirtbag and crook, and Sanders, unlike Trump, doesn't make a point of humiliating and debasing competitors in his own camp. So I think it would be substantially easier for i dunno Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Dem donors and media to fall in behind Sanders than it was for Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and Fox and Ted Cruz-loving billionaires and etc. to line up behind Trump, which obviously has not in the end been that hard for them at all.

But he would have to win the primary, of course.

He might could

I suspect he will

He's undoubtedly got a big chance. A big field definitely helps him, and the longer Biden, Beto and the other stay in the better as they're taking votes and space from each other, not Bernie. Also as to caeks point upthread about Howard Schitz or someone going third party to siphon off enough votes to keep Trump in - think theres some validity to that, but it would have to be someone a lot more viable than Schitz. And the longer the field is open the harder it will be for a third party independent shithead to get any traction. Think it comes down to Kamala vs Bernie in end. Also the longer and more competitive the race is, the more attention on the Democrat side - i don't see that as bad. More time and attention for each candidate, and of course, more time to go on Fox:D

A big field definitely helps him, and the longer Biden, Beto and the other stay in the better as they're taking votes and space from each other, not Bernie.

Bernie was the most popular second choice after Biden, so he's absolutely taking votes from him. And Bernie is still ahead!

"What It's Like" politics beats "Fugazi capitalism" at least.

yes, Bernie will take votes from them of course. But they will take votes from each other more so than from him

Goddamm, for a moment, I got "What It's Like" confused with "What I Got".

Buttigieg don't cry when his dog runs away

RIP Lou Dog

Goddamm, for a moment, I got "What It's Like" confused with "What I Got".

― pplains, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:27 (twenty-five minutes ago) Permalink

listening to what it's like now, and i realize i was expecting to hear matchbox 20's 'real world'

mayor pete starting to bum me out tbh

I'm just over here quietly praying this election comes down to "What I Am" vs "What's Up"

"What It's Like" is top-notch Old-Man-Hat Rap

how many notches are there and what resides on the lower notches?!

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, who is running a climate-focused (and longshot) 2020 campaign, last night asked the Democratic National Committee to set up a debate focused solely on climate change.

“This can’t be a one-off question where candidates get to give a soundbite and move on,” Inslee, who launched a petition, said in a statement. “Climate change is at the heart of every issue that matters to voters, and voters deserve to hear what 2020 presidential candidates plan to do about it.”

https://www.axios.com/jay-inslee-2020-democratic-debate-climate-change-9c60f24d-6cd3-46f0-994b-e63ae868f452.html

only one?

that's one more than we've had in previous election cycles tbf

The DNC offered an extremely noncommittal statement last night, even as the party emphasized the topic's importance and said Republicans "refuse to even acknowledge that climate change is real."

t/s: accepting climate change is real and doing nothing about it vs outright denialism

good luck usa

"A big field definitely helps him, and the longer Biden, Beto and the other stay in"

Is Biden even in yet? I've lost track but I don't think he's officially announced and the longer he goes without doing it the more I think he's not going to

not officially, no

Buttigieg wasn't officially in until last weekend, but he was way more in before that than Biden is now

schrodinger's candidate

Just Biden his time

Obamlet on the Dudson

Meanwhile, on the candidate taxes beat

Beto O’Rourke underpaid taxes twice, report says https://t.co/o1gE6v9QcQ

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) April 17, 2019

plus I think Ezra Klein recently tweeted out how much each candidate gave to charity last year and Beto was like 0.31% or some shit.

O’Rourke and his wife Amy took medical deductions those years that were not supposed to be available to a person his age, according to the report.

so THIS is the way we find out that beto's been lying about his age all this time

I can't fault Beto when my contributions are a robust 0% but yeah his wife is f'n rich and he should know that people will look at this stuff.

old man o'rourke had better be more careful standing on all those high surfaces, if he falls and breaks his hip he's done for

https://images.app.goo.gl/VToQdYqakHRcBXdt7

Could’ve sworn I saw that Biden was out but I must have been dreaming.

"He faced anti-gay hecklers at two events, including in Des Moines where a man in the crowd shouted ‘remember Sodom and Gomorrah!’ just after Buttigieg talked about marrying his husband, Chasten, who attended the event.

“The man kept shouting but the crowd chants of ‘Pete! Pete!’ drowned him out. Buttigieg calmly looked on as security escorted away the individual. ‘The good news is, the condition of my soul is in the hands of God, but the Iowa caucuses are up to you,’ Buttigieg said to laughter and cheers.

“Two days after officially entering the presidential race, Buttigieg was expecting 50 people at a Polk County meet and greet. As RSVPs rolled in, organizers moved it from a small gym at Franklin Junior High to the large gym, to an auditorium and finally moving it outside. A good thing: a stunning 1,650 people showed up in the end.

“It isn’t just the number of people that stands out: Buttigieg has yet to staff up with organizers in Iowa, so this turnout was mostly organic. Buttigieg spoke to a progressive Iowa group in December and has visited the earlier this year but this crowd was exponentially larger.”

I'm not entirely over Pete but I'm not sure about letting our first First Gentleman be named fucking Chasten

Sanders's program is just not that different from what Democratic voters and politicians stump for anyway

this seems...not true? or at least, if they're stumping for it now it's because he pushed them in that direction (at least re M4A)

also, i too thought i had heard biden was out but apparently was dreaming too