2020 Democratic presidential primary

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better I guess to have a brown woman or a gay man or who are more likely to preserve the advantages of being wealthy, white and male

or

that is exactly how it works.

that's how it "worked" 2008-2016

so many other options in 2012

until a legit progressive woman and/or POC jumps in EW is the only way out of this cul de sac

if/when she starts polling better head-to-head against Trump than Bernie does I will enthusiastically support her

in today's NYT

Apparently, the NYT thinks that "mainstream Democrats" attend canapé-filled fundraisers on the coasts in non-election years. They also hang out in the cloakrooms of Washington. The last time I looked, winning a presidential election requires more than 60 million votes. The number of Democrats who fit the NYT's criteria would amount to a tiny puddle, not a mainstream.

canapés ew

i'd say Shithead tweeting abt "Crazy Bernie" on Fox means it paid off

god almighty fred eat shit

How, some Democrats are beginning to ask, do they thwart a 70-something candidate from outside the party structure who is immune to intimidation or incentive and wields support from an unwavering base, without simply reinforcing his “the establishment is out to get me’’ message — the same grievance Mr. Trump used to great effect?

this is an amazing paragraph

Why might be a better question.

Journalists who use any variant of the phrase "some [insert category of choice] are/think/say" as a way of pretending whatever follows next is a valid observation, should be banished.

As successful as Sanders was in persuading FOX that to encourage his run would, the producers assume, Divide the Democratic Party, I still saw the kind of adamantine sticking-to-message that worries me when as president he deals with a situation in which he doesn't have to repeat the line about the wealthiest x percent of the population own x percent of the wealth.

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— 6X Debate Champ (@gunsmoslem) April 16, 2019

I can promise you that Democrats eat the shit out of some canapes in the Midwest, we just call them cheese curds is all

If Bernie did somehow become the nominee, there would be a lot of parallels to Trump in ‘16. The Dem establishment would probably warm to him the same way the GOP did to Trump.

by his signing anything they gave him?

By wearing any bifocals they give him.

i'm skeptical of the Estab embracing Bern. I kind of agree w/ Perrin, they'd rather have Trump cuz then they don't have to do politics.

I kind of agree w/ Perrin

lol. i thought morbs was perrin (@_@)

i haven't written any books, so blow me.

I don't follow that logic

I haven't written any either, so somebody blow me!

https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Dennis+Perrin%22

How does this relate to you being Dennis Perrin, though?

cuz i didnt write Mr. Mike!

has Andrew Yang written a book? how about Swalwell?

"The Sacking of the Masonic Temple in Jersey by the Nazis in 1941," currently selling used for $103.95 on amazon

i'm gonna go ahead and assume it's not our dennis who wrote this one?

cuz i didnt write Mr. Mike!

are you saying that Perrin deserves to never get blown because he wrote Mr Mike

we're all trying to work with you here

Did he write Channing Tatum's obliques or were they already like that?

morbs just admitted he is andrew yang you all saw it

People who still admire Michael O'Donoghue > people who still admire Bill Hicks

But not by much.

Elizabeth Warren dropped two excellent policy ideas today, and the New York Times is publishing articles about what Neera Tanden said to her mom about Bernie Sanders. Super excited to relive all the bullshit of 2016!

— Amy Hartman (@ameseh) April 16, 2019

Rebecca Solnit has been tying herself into knots on FB for two weeks angry that Buttigieg is getting coverage when Warren isn't. Ok fine, but as a white woman who positions herself as an ally to Native Americans she never once gave NA activists any thread time when they were pissed at Warren for playing into Trump's hands on identity, so to her I say "give me a fucking break". Liberal purity tests are gong to fucking kill me this time around.

I'm already dead this time around.

I bought a Warren t-shirt, though, since my vote couldn't count less where I live.

I have to say the Kamala Harris hoodies look good.

tying herself into knots on FB for two weeks angry that Buttigieg is getting coverage when Warren isn't.

As long as she directs her anger at the media instead of Buttigieg. Trying to get as much free media attention as possible is what every candidate does and expecting any candidate to do anything else would be stupid. This has nothing to do with Buttigieg's 'purity', only the choices made by producers or editors.

There's more info out now about candidate donation #s.

the NYT did cover Warren's policy ideas

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-public-lands.html

Buttigieg's asked what song describes his life and he mentions Everlast's "What it's like" as one that doesn't necessarily describe his life, but describes "the way we should come to politics" https://t.co/ZLvRAnhVG4

— Alexandra Jaffe (@ajjaffe) April 16, 2019

i'm skeptical of the Estab embracing Bern.

I'm not. Sanders's program is just not that different from what Democratic voters and politicians stump for anyway (just like Trump's program is not that different from what Republican voters and politicians stump for anyway) And Sanders, unlike Trump, is not a lifelong dirtbag and crook, and Sanders, unlike Trump, doesn't make a point of humiliating and debasing competitors in his own camp. So I think it would be substantially easier for i dunno Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Dem donors and media to fall in behind Sanders than it was for Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and Fox and Ted Cruz-loving billionaires and etc. to line up behind Trump, which obviously has not in the end been that hard for them at all.

But he would have to win the primary, of course.

He might could

I suspect he will

He's undoubtedly got a big chance. A big field definitely helps him, and the longer Biden, Beto and the other stay in the better as they're taking votes and space from each other, not Bernie. Also as to caeks point upthread about Howard Schitz or someone going third party to siphon off enough votes to keep Trump in - think theres some validity to that, but it would have to be someone a lot more viable than Schitz. And the longer the field is open the harder it will be for a third party independent shithead to get any traction. Think it comes down to Kamala vs Bernie in end. Also the longer and more competitive the race is, the more attention on the Democrat side - i don't see that as bad. More time and attention for each candidate, and of course, more time to go on Fox:D

A big field definitely helps him, and the longer Biden, Beto and the other stay in the better as they're taking votes and space from each other, not Bernie.

Bernie was the most popular second choice after Biden, so he's absolutely taking votes from him. And Bernie is still ahead!

"What It's Like" politics beats "Fugazi capitalism" at least.