Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

the Faragists apparently want to change UK politics. between them and Clang.Uk we're in for a tidal wave of radical new thinking i reckon

I listened to today - DA directly minimised the rape allegations/charges by using a technical argument that the “charges were never brought”. humphrys was going very hard on her (much harder than he usually does with guests; I listen to today everyday god help my soul). this may have thrown her a little but that’s no excuse and she could’ve handled it better

If any of you are WFH today, it’s Ash Sarkar versus David Starkey on Daily Politics (and she has already been given many eyeball-rolling statements to react to).

Hi gyac - I wasn't meaning to answer your question - my response was just my response to the line I quoted.

I don't expect him to combat each arsehole separately, but as per Matt, he could have cut them off by mentioning, and taking seriously, the rape allegations. I'm getting more cynical these days, so I'm half way to thinking this was intentional for the audience.

In other news, Farage's control of the bantz force deepens with him bringing on Annunziata Rees-Mogg as one of the Brexit Party MEP candidates.

She joined the Conservative Party at the age of five.

got her packed lunch redistributed once too often

"between them and Clang.Uk we're in for a tidal wave of radical new thinking i reckon"

latest Survation Eng/Wales poll has TiG on 1%!

TiG's better figures are likely from prompt-polls (vz "who would you vote for if they were standing in your constituency) -- which (a) they probably aren't but (b) this puts them back in your mind as a gamechanging proposition at a time when everyone is fed up of everything.

Re (a): the longer extension gives them time to build on this tbh (they have no internal brains to speak of, but wealthy and patient backing, and some of what's left of the blairite machine) (tho this is not at ALL what it once was i don't think)
Re (b): this sense of exhaustion i suspect now affects EVERYONE and likely distorts many voters' sense of their material self-interests (viz MAKE IT STOP nudging towards all kinds of unicornism, right centre and left)

Farage talking about changing the face of British politics forever with a party called the Brexit Party, why not call it the Tamagotchi Party or the Weeble Party?

Oh good, the “I stand with Soldier F” motorbike protest just passed me. Hope he rots in jail, m8s.

Inch by inch, the Independent Group are understanding how to communicate on social media pic.twitter.com/3Bb7ptMssg

— Jack McInroy (@JackMcInroy) April 12, 2019

lol

One of these cunts has a “we are all Soldier F” flag.

who among us would not mow down unarmed protestors given half the chance

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/12/daily-telegraph-forced-correct-false-brexit-claim-boris-johnson?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Is this our Mitchell Stirling?

if gapesy had said "don't sign your tweets" he'd be good now

Out of curiosity, I've googled the whole list. The only one who doesn't sound absolutely insanely rich is a Cambridge-educated Sp*ked contributor. https://t.co/tZIa3z3sGv

— Ana Oppenheim 🌹 (@AnaOpp) April 12, 2019

lads

https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b7b18ae5a81b6048552da91f64a944/tumblr_ppw594nXZY1s2jikwo1_1280.jpg

glad to see serial sex pest John Woodcock is on the right side of the Assange argument.

xp tag me I'm a teenyweeny "great"

I'm the "OK" person.

it me, ‘shit’

oh it's about brexit. I thought it was that qualities + accomplishments of New Labour wallpaper that Marsan has on twitter!

I know I get a reasonable amount of shite for following conhome, but what are you doing with your life that you know that, calz?

not been there in months, honest! But often when he posts something a bit thick a screen cap of it inevitably pops up on my feed.

too late!

Far right & far left factions have taken over the main political parties in the UK, facilitating Brexit & spreading xenophobia, islamophobia & anti-Semitism. I refuse to let them define my country, that’s why I support the ⁦@Tig_England⁩/Change UK https://t.co/61PLczlMp2

— Eddie Marsan (@eddiemarsan) March 30, 2019

fucking ouch at those CON numbers

Voting intention for UK House of Commons, @YouGov, 10-11 April (changes since GE17):

Lab 32% (-9)
Con 28% (-16)
LD 11% (+3)
Brexit 8% (+8)
UKIP 6% (+4)
SNP 5% (+2)
Grn 5% (+3)
ChUK 3% (+3)

My seat estimate
Lab 294 (+32)
Con 253 (-63)
SNP 51 (+16)
LD 28 (+16)
Oth 24 (-)

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) April 13, 2019

Farage's brexit + only ever so slightly racist millionaires party is showing CHUK how it is done.

Marsan's tweet = why democracy is bad, not good

good thread, except it’s not unbelievable really. continuity_remain’s ineptitude hasn’t been apparent for the past few years

It is absolutely unbelievable that there hasn’t been great organisation and planning from remain forces and greater organisation from the remain side. It was obvious they would happen; real complacency. Farage and his team have been planning this for months.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) April 13, 2019

has*

counterpart

1/5 A short thread on the marked difference in branding success of two newly launched political parties:
• Brexit Party (very successful)
• Change UK (absolutely woeful)

— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) April 13, 2019

"It is absolutely unbelievable" cue very believable set of posts from FBPEeps

I mean if you believe this is an economic catastrophe then framing it as a culture war is just endlessly self defeating but it's almost as if people don't recognise their own prejudices

Note to self to just stop reading

rare example of the inverse ratio here, where people pile on a tweet to express support for the tweeter

On my Roger Scruton interview — I stand by the accuracy of my interview but apologise for my social media conduct. https://t.co/vhFog9eL28

— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) April 12, 2019

When Scruton’s resignation was announced by the government, I subsequently posted a photograph of myself on my personal Instagram account drinking champagne in celebration.

George Eaton turns woke.

I mean, you've got to laugh really, haven't you? pic.twitter.com/V83taejVaC

— David Timoney (@fromarsetoelbow) April 13, 2019

Lighting in the Andrew Marr studio giving UKIP leader Gerald or Gerard (whatever) Batten a small moustache which, combined with his dyed dark hair, is having a most unfortunate effect.

Are those actually inconsistent with one another? The fact that the Tories have lost almost twice as many polling points as Labour suggests they've got a lot more to lose from being seen to "betray Brexit" than Labour does. Difficult to see where the Labour Remain vote would go instead, but they might lose seats they won surprisingly last time - eg Kensington & Chelsea, Canterbury etc.

Counter-intuitively though a major swing in Leave-voting marginals in eg the Midlands could actually help Labour. Difficult to know without more data but there's the chance of flood of Tory votes going to the Brexit Party while the Remain vote (still around 40% in most places) sticks with Labour. No full-throttle Brexiter is under any illusions that Labour is an anti-EU party really and wouldn't have voted for them last time around anyway. (This is separate from people who happened to vote Leave but don't care about it enough to let it swing their vote when other concerns are taken into account).

(xpost - they did that with Rees-Mogg a few weeks ago. Someone in the lighting department has clearly discovered that trick and is having some fun with it).

The George Eaton thing is a MESS, particularly as he posted one of the quotes (about Chinese people) in a slightly abridged format which gave every shrieking racist on the internet licence to claim that Scruton was being misquoted.

Ofc the other quotes don’t seem to trouble these cunts too much.

The editor of the NS, Jason Cowley, has retweeted pieces supporting Scruton.

Nothing particularly to base it on so my take may be wrong, but it 'feels' like the fervour of the Leave vote is declining? Maybe only since Jan/Feb, but on the flipside should the 'Remain Vote' really want a second referendum? Both of these things depend n shifting numbers, in both intensity and direction. Up until the turn of the year it fel like that hadn't happened, but now?

Those numbers are YouGov? ok if YouGov are reporting numbers like that for Tories the trouble is real

the latest hysterical push for Corbyn to campaign for Ref 2 also *feels* like Clunge.UK and their Blairite media pals having another sally over the top rather than anything reflecting actual swells of public opinion tbh

Just by reading those headlines you'd think that yes the Tory collapse would more than make-up for Labour losing a few seats that they never expected to win in the first place like Kensington & Chelsea. At the moment the likes CUK aren't providing that place for Labour Remainer voters to go to, and they won't because there is just no fucking substance to them, and it won't be coming from Heidi Allen.

Following on from mark's post (and just making a note for myself without thinking about it further) a MAKE IT STOP message might be a good thing for Labour to crack on with when campaigning at the next election.

xp = that Eaton photo must be hilarious. What a way to act..

This isn’t my feeling at all, particularly with about 25% of people polled favouring No Deal and with the reception of the Brexit party. Leave is a lot more organised and has that stabbed in the back narrative just waiting to be rolled out.

Nothing particularly to base it on so my take may be wrong, but it 'feels' like the fervour of the Leave vote is declining?

You said it, nothing particularly to base it on.

some absolutely cringe-worthy contributions to that program on dead Hitchens last night, but omg that was the cringiest I've heard Blair since his "princess of farts" moment (tbf he doesn't have any other setting). P Hitchens is defending Scruton today as well, no doubt running out the old Tory Blairites aren't conservatives, they are marxists bollox that he is fond of.