Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

xp it’s supposedly god helping Chelsea Manning to leak the videos

*for

Which, as you said, is like the only good thing Wikileaks ever did.

Also I didn’t listen to Today, but is this true?

Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "this is all about Wikileaks and all of that embarrassing information about the activities of the American military and security services that was made public".

But she said Assange should also face the criminal justice system if the Swedish government charged him.

xp I think the diplomatic cables have value as well! But those videos were legit public service.

might nominate gyac's phone for ile poster of the year

had a feeling that god hates america, but the great deity will surely press the yellowstone erupt! button when they decide to get vengeful!

(xps) I knew they had done something else worthwhile, but couldn't remember what.

gyac, (which my phone autocorrects to ‘guacamole’ btw) you can be female and still make statements that another woman can find a bit minimising of the importance of seeing through rape charges at trial.

Interestingly, if extradited to Sweden to face these charges, both the UK and Sweden could prevent the Trump administration’s extradition request. Sweden were not informed of the planned arrest by Ecuador (the US was) which is dodgy, but they’re already taking steps to re-open the case less than a day after the event. Hooray, Sweden’

That’s not what I’m talking about (that you don’t know who you’re talking to online), but I do live in hope that you’ll at least pause before levelling some shit level take like that at me again.

Sweden were not informed of the planned arrest by Ecuador (the US was)

Tbrr, nobody who matters here cares about the rape charges

It’s only a shit-level take *in your opinion* but by all means, keep digging.

This was good and is where I’m at:

Thread on Assange and Sweden.

Because of misinformation.

1.

— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) April 12, 2019

the pit will need to be very large to accommodate all thoughtless nonsense itt, but I will gladly assist with the digging

get dogging not digging

When this guy is whiling away his days in SuperMax, whats the charge it will be for? Does it matter? And will we cheer as loudly when the next person is someone we like? I don't see whats progressive about this.

When we throw away any protections for Assange, Shamima Begum, or anyone else, they aren't the only people we throw them away for

This is the right take I think, but if you're in the Labour leadership it's also vital not to be seen to be minimising the importance of the rape allegations. Whoever wrote or agreed that Corbyn tweet only addressed half the issue - the official line appears to be more nuanced, thankfully.

Tbrr, nobody who matters here cares about the rape charges

Or Sweden frankly.

Meanwhile, Assange’s mother railed against May and Ecuador’s president in a stream of tweets demanding the release of her son. Pledging to “fight like hell”, Christine Assange said May was “trying to divert attention away from her Brexit dog’s breakfast by cheering on the thuggish, brutal, unlawful arrest of my courageous, tortured multi-award winning journalist son Julian!”

Addressing Ecuador’s president, she tweeted: “Shame on you Lenín Moreno! May the Ecuadorean people seek vengeance upon you, you dirty, deceitful, rotten traitor! May the face of my suffering son haunt your sleepless nights ... And may your soul writhe forever in torturous Purgatory as you have tortured my beloved son!”

Taking it stoically I see.

xp the BBC had this on their story but I didn’t listen to Today but I don’t know what was actually said.

Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "this is all about Wikileaks and all of that embarrassing information about the activities of the American military and security services that was made public".
But she said Assange should also face the criminal justice system if the Swedish government charged him.

Has anyone approached Assange’s mother for comment on his alleged dirty protest?

A few points, pell-mell, none of which contradict each other:

1. No matter what happens, Assange should be tried for rape in Sweden.
2. In principle, WikiLeaks is a salutary organisation and whistleblowing should not be illegal.
3. It is more than likely that Russian intelligence services have aided Assange, leading him to a) sow chaos on the US political scene by harming the DNC and Clinton's campaign in particular and b) abstain from researching and/or releasing openly compromising information regarding Russian activity, domestically and abroad. In other words, WikiLeaks has failed to live up to its promise.
4. Trump's part in this play calls for more than just a healthy dose of skepticism, to say the least.
5. I'm mostly indifferent to the rest (sorry).

the Faragists apparently want to change UK politics. between them and Clang.Uk we're in for a tidal wave of radical new thinking i reckon

I listened to today - DA directly minimised the rape allegations/charges by using a technical argument that the “charges were never brought”. humphrys was going very hard on her (much harder than he usually does with guests; I listen to today everyday god help my soul). this may have thrown her a little but that’s no excuse and she could’ve handled it better

If any of you are WFH today, it’s Ash Sarkar versus David Starkey on Daily Politics (and she has already been given many eyeball-rolling statements to react to).

Hi gyac - I wasn't meaning to answer your question - my response was just my response to the line I quoted.

I don't expect him to combat each arsehole separately, but as per Matt, he could have cut them off by mentioning, and taking seriously, the rape allegations. I'm getting more cynical these days, so I'm half way to thinking this was intentional for the audience.

In other news, Farage's control of the bantz force deepens with him bringing on Annunziata Rees-Mogg as one of the Brexit Party MEP candidates.

She joined the Conservative Party at the age of five.

got her packed lunch redistributed once too often

"between them and Clang.Uk we're in for a tidal wave of radical new thinking i reckon"

latest Survation Eng/Wales poll has TiG on 1%!

TiG's better figures are likely from prompt-polls (vz "who would you vote for if they were standing in your constituency) -- which (a) they probably aren't but (b) this puts them back in your mind as a gamechanging proposition at a time when everyone is fed up of everything.

Re (a): the longer extension gives them time to build on this tbh (they have no internal brains to speak of, but wealthy and patient backing, and some of what's left of the blairite machine) (tho this is not at ALL what it once was i don't think)
Re (b): this sense of exhaustion i suspect now affects EVERYONE and likely distorts many voters' sense of their material self-interests (viz MAKE IT STOP nudging towards all kinds of unicornism, right centre and left)

Farage talking about changing the face of British politics forever with a party called the Brexit Party, why not call it the Tamagotchi Party or the Weeble Party?

Oh good, the “I stand with Soldier F” motorbike protest just passed me. Hope he rots in jail, m8s.

Inch by inch, the Independent Group are understanding how to communicate on social media pic.twitter.com/3Bb7ptMssg

— Jack McInroy (@JackMcInroy) April 12, 2019

lol

One of these cunts has a “we are all Soldier F” flag.

who among us would not mow down unarmed protestors given half the chance

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/12/daily-telegraph-forced-correct-false-brexit-claim-boris-johnson?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Is this our Mitchell Stirling?

if gapesy had said "don't sign your tweets" he'd be good now

Out of curiosity, I've googled the whole list. The only one who doesn't sound absolutely insanely rich is a Cambridge-educated Sp*ked contributor. https://t.co/tZIa3z3sGv

— Ana Oppenheim 🌹 (@AnaOpp) April 12, 2019

lads

https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b7b18ae5a81b6048552da91f64a944/tumblr_ppw594nXZY1s2jikwo1_1280.jpg

glad to see serial sex pest John Woodcock is on the right side of the Assange argument.

xp tag me I'm a teenyweeny "great"

I'm the "OK" person.

it me, ‘shit’

oh it's about brexit. I thought it was that qualities + accomplishments of New Labour wallpaper that Marsan has on twitter!

I know I get a reasonable amount of shite for following conhome, but what are you doing with your life that you know that, calz?

not been there in months, honest! But often when he posts something a bit thick a screen cap of it inevitably pops up on my feed.

too late!

Far right & far left factions have taken over the main political parties in the UK, facilitating Brexit & spreading xenophobia, islamophobia & anti-Semitism. I refuse to let them define my country, that’s why I support the ⁦@Tig_England⁩/Change UK https://t.co/61PLczlMp2

— Eddie Marsan (@eddiemarsan) March 30, 2019

fucking ouch at those CON numbers

Voting intention for UK House of Commons, @YouGov, 10-11 April (changes since GE17):

Lab 32% (-9)
Con 28% (-16)
LD 11% (+3)
Brexit 8% (+8)
UKIP 6% (+4)
SNP 5% (+2)
Grn 5% (+3)
ChUK 3% (+3)

My seat estimate
Lab 294 (+32)
Con 253 (-63)
SNP 51 (+16)
LD 28 (+16)
Oth 24 (-)

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) April 13, 2019

Farage's brexit + only ever so slightly racist millionaires party is showing CHUK how it is done.