Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

francois is going to be upset when he notices his own surname

and his middle-name for that matter

scrutis borad

lovely stuff

Just outstanding pic.twitter.com/eSNcMMDqOy

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) April 10, 2019

piquant

The life and death of a star: pic.twitter.com/1wyljX5iHr

— McCats (@FeralMcCats) April 10, 2019

i hear Scruton's gone

De Gaulle's opposition to the British is often attributed to simple Anglophobia, an example of latter-day French dislike of "La perfide Albion". This position is supported by readings of De Gaulle's public speeches or reference to his relationship with his Allied comrades during the War, which could be euphemistically described as "turbulent". A particularly infamous, though fake, quotation of De Gaulle's in these scepter'd isles is "We shall stun [the British] with our ingratitude!"

...and @jessphillips on why Fleabag should be the next PM.

cursed sentence

http://www.madamepickwickartblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/blake27.jpg

The backlash starts here.

Reuters:

BREXIT SUMMIT: EU LEADERS AGREE BREXIT DELAY UNTIL OCT.31, WITH REVIEW IN JUNE - EU DIPLOMATS

— Jakub Krupa (@JakubKrupa) April 10, 2019

spoooooky!

ahahaha

not really long enough for a referendum, anyone would think they want us to leave

The Tories can’t VONC Theresa May until December and this suggests the EU are trying to keep her in until then.

get those MEP campaigns geared up y'all

I think the date is probably a lot more about France than the UK.

Jean-Claude Juncker was ‘really annoyed’ with Emmanuel Macron, according to diplomatic source. ‘France went on its own and has broken EU unity, it surprises us,’ a source rants to me!

— Joe Barnes (@Barnes_Joe) April 10, 2019

Euro elections = REF2?

In as much as a big vote for pro or anti EU parties in the euros will be the next pivot point.

Except with a turnout of 30%.

suspect the turnout will be too poor to pin much on it, but it won't stop people trying xp yeah exactly

We are about to be besieged with D’Hondt threads. Both turnout and attention could be enormous here; I don’t think this will be a 30% effort.

OK, 35%.

Seriously, I think people are kidding themselves if they think people are going to go out in vote in a European election.

Two peoples there, apologies.

i can only vote in euro elections, general elections and uk referendums so i'll be enjoying being able to exercise my democratic right as a bloody red white and blue brexiteer boy from my canadian bolt-hole

Yeah no way is this election getting turnout. It will be low enough for even more cranks than usual to become MEPs

Don’t follow this at all. It will be played by all sorts as a ref by proxy, and turnout will be corresponding. There are too many people too pissed off for it to be local election-scale.

Think we'll need a separate betting thread for the over/under here

Less than 50 percent, easy

The official thing the election is about (who gets to be your mep) is likely a moot point.

And the thing it’s supposedly a proxy referendum on, well, the actual referendum doesn’t appear to have been binding so it’s not clear why this one would be.

Very difficult to argue with anyone who says voting in these elections is pointless.

The over/under should be whether we’ll even beat the “normal” euro election turnout, ie not a lot per cent.

Don’t get me wrong, the campaign will be febrile and vile.

The euro turnout in 2009/2014 was 35% btw

I don't know - some people are actually pro-europe now! Certainly, if the media were to pump up the election...oh, never mind.

Thanks caek, i wondered what was normal and was appropriately conservative. Brexiters more likely to boycott and be encouraged to boycott than vote i wd guess

halloween brexit, very spooky choice imo

scruton out.

Scruton for MEP, the campaign starts here.

Farage's Brexit Party has two kick-off events over the next week - "This is place is democratically invalid let's slash the seats (and pick up expenses)" worked pretty well for his last job.

6 more months of uncertainty and business spaffing money up the wall on no deal planning

heard Scrutodyce got pumped.

Teh Scrutemeister has snuffed it

Can't see the logic in the EU agreeing, nay asking, UK to play along in the elections. It will hijack the whole damn thing; maybe not in the UK, but outside it most certainly.

Farage will be glad they got his salary sorted tho.

Also I know it's hard to believe but 5 years ago people just didn't care that much about the EU - I think it's safe to say that's changed now.

I reckon 50% is about right.

as a commonwealth citizen can I run as a MEP for some tiny Brexiteer-ridden enclave of little England or

Turnout will be an excellent litmus test of how many people in the country are really committed Brexiters or FBPErs - I'd expect 80%+ turnout among ultras and a decent turnout among people who are otherwise reasonably politically engaged, while virtually no one else will bother to vote.

Also I know it's hard to believe but 5 years ago people just didn't care that much about the EU

Depressingly OTM.

Turnout will be an excellent litmus test of how many people in the country are really committed Brexiters or FBPErs - I'd expect 80%+ turnout among ultras and a decent turnout among people who are otherwise reasonably politically engaged, while virtually no one else will bother to vote.

Sounds about right. Not exactly REF2 then.

scrutons in ur bouillabaisse killin eu d00dz

mods pls start scruton thread so I can stop flagging posts itt