2020 Democratic presidential primary

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he looks like the dude who played Hugh Sloan in All the President's Men. He's a solid, intelligent congressman who belongs on cable TV.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:44 (seven years ago)

The hideous Hillaryite gay blog commenters are saying of Bernie "he's never addressed that a lot of his support is fake"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:22 (seven years ago)

russian bots

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:24 (seven years ago)

i do completely fucking hate millionaires

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:51 (seven years ago)

Write a book about it

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:52 (seven years ago)

pfft sounds like a trap

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:53 (seven years ago)

starting Monday "he's a millionaire / hypocrite / champagne socialist" will be the principal attack line against him in perpetuity, I expect.

― Simon H., Tuesday, April 9, 2019 2:18 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is well and good but i'm happy to stick with 'he's an old fool'

shoulda zagged (esby), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:55 (seven years ago)

he will still be the "poorest" candidate by some distance, I would think? or is there another contender

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:58 (seven years ago)

it's true that i hate all the candidates

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:01 (seven years ago)

v reasonable stance tbh

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:07 (seven years ago)

i do completely fucking hate millionaires

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:51 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Write a book about it

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:52 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago)

lol joke's on you i already hate myself

j., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:32 (seven years ago)

itt humblebrags

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:39 (seven years ago)

with that self-loathing more like grumblebrags

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:40 (seven years ago)

he will still be the "poorest" candidate by some distance, I would think? or is there another contender

I would think that Buttigieg is less rich. Unless his father's Gramsci translation did Bernie numbers and it was passed down.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:00 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg went to Harvard and worked for McKinsey. Then had no expenses while in the military and then moved to south bend Indiana. He might be in better financial shape than Castro.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:06 (seven years ago)

NY Times w/ page-one poll warning "All the non-Twitter Dems are mmmmmoderate, u better nominate a Goldman Sachs pal"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:51 (seven years ago)

Mike Gravel just sent out this email, with the subject line "Fuck Tucker Carlson":

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grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:31 (seven years ago)

I love the Gravel teens.

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:35 (seven years ago)

NEW: Bernie Sanders would support eliminating the legislative filibuster to pass Medicare for All when there is a simple majority in favor. From his statement: pic.twitter.com/0EZgWEFb17

— Greg Krieg (@GregJKrieg) April 10, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:38 (seven years ago)

'requiring a talking filibuster'... What's going on...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:01 (seven years ago)

to the best of my knowledge, the easy method of filibuster is simply voting not to close debate on a bill (cloture) so a bill cannot be brought to a final vote. The hard method is continuing to "debate" by actually speaking on the floor of the Senate. This usually turns out to be a Senator reading aloud from something irrelevant to an empty chamber.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:13 (seven years ago)

retaining the talking filibuster is a way of saying you aren't violating the sacred tradition of unlimited debate in the senate, while still fixing the parliamentary maneuver that is now what we mostly know as the "filibuster"

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:15 (seven years ago)

That won't fix a damn thing. Definitely won't get M4A passed. Completely nonsensical.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:17 (seven years ago)

shut up, Fred

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:17 (seven years ago)

lol

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:20 (seven years ago)

folks, let me be clear. we can 51 fred again. it will be funny.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:22 (seven years ago)

the full statement is clearer but does not seem to say what the original poster says it did? odd

Here is Sanders' full statement. Includes their plan to use reconciliation in certain circumstances: pic.twitter.com/yFMP9aJMCM

— Greg Krieg (@GregJKrieg) April 10, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:27 (seven years ago)

I told my wife that one of the thing Mayor Pete was interested in (according to his Breakfast Club interview). She looked it up quickly and turns out South Bend teachers make less than the average Indiana teacher. Also, he talked about how we need to bring city-style politics into national politics?! Last time I checked, city governments weren't any less corrupt than any other level of government.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:07 (seven years ago)

I told my wife that one of the thing Mayor Pete was interested in (according to his Breakfast Club interview) was increasing teacher pay.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:07 (seven years ago)

It all feels very Obama with him.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:08 (seven years ago)

Last time I checked, city governments weren't any less corrupt than any other level of government.

Any less corrupt? City government is pure corruption.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:38 (seven years ago)

I didn't want to overstate (the SCALE of national government corruption is so much more massive), but yeah - cities are cesspools of corruption.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:41 (seven years ago)

I remember when DC elected an incorruptible and uncompromising young technocrat for mayor, he ended up impotent and unpopular

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:43 (seven years ago)

Fenty!! Complete forgot about him

Heez, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:55 (seven years ago)

Buying local politicians is so cheap, if I were a shitty rich person I wouldn't bother going past the mayoral level. You could have the entire South Bend City Council at your beck and call for less than the price of one State Senator.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 11 April 2019 00:08 (seven years ago)

the full statement is clearer but does not seem to say what the original poster says it did? odd

― Simon H., 11. april 2019 00:27 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's the senate parliamentarian, not the vice president, who decides whether or not a bill can be passed through budget reconciliation, at least traditionally. If you're going to break with tradition anyway, just lower the threshold for cloture from 60 to 50 and be done with it, this shit is just smoke and mirrors. He is saying as clear as day that he is not willing to do what he will have to do to pass M4A.

Frederik B, Thursday, 11 April 2019 06:38 (seven years ago)

Good news, Free, I’m still awake to tell you to stop posting

moose; squirrel (silby), Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:04 (seven years ago)

Dang it, then my dastardly plan to foil M4A is ruined yet again. You win this time!

Frederik B, Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:09 (seven years ago)

phew, thanks silby

blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:26 (seven years ago)

Buying local politicians is so cheap, if I were a shitty rich person I wouldn't bother going past the mayoral level. You could have the entire South Bend City Council at your beck and call for less than the price of one State Senator.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 11 April 2019 00:08 (nine hours ago) Permalink

When I read Master of the Senate, one of the most shocking things was how little corporate/private money there was in politics in the 1950's. The stories of LBJ essentially "buying" elections by having rich Texas fucks contribute under $2,500 (iirc) to congressional campaigns are almost laughable in hindsight.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:18 (seven years ago)

Yeah, but $2500 in 1950s money is basically a lottery jackpot today.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 11 April 2019 11:44 (seven years ago)

$2500 in 1950 is about $26000 today.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:36 (seven years ago)

I love the Gravel teens.

lol on Chapo they were speculating that this was an elder abuse situation

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s (D) strong media buzz appears to be translating into growing support in key early-voting states, according to a pair of polls released Thursday.

According to two new surveys, Buttigieg has climbed into third place in both Iowa and New Hampshire, trailing only Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and former Vice President Joe Biden.

Monmouth University’s survey of Iowa caucusgoers found Biden leading the field in Iowa with 27% support, Sanders at 16% and Buttigieg with nine percent — a notable rise given how few voters know about him at this point. They were followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) at seven percent apiece, and former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-TX) at six percent, with the other candidates below five percent support.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:25 (seven years ago)

the NH poll:

St. Anselm College found similar results in a New Hampshire poll released Thursday morning, with Biden leading the field at 23% support , Sanders at 16%, and Buttigieg in third place with 11% support. Warren was at nine percent, Harris at seven percent, O’Rourke at six percent, and the rest of the field didn’t top five percent support.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:25 (seven years ago)

a Democrat in his 70s on my FB feed says Buttigieg is "fresher" than Biden

being mushy and/or quiet on policy not hurting him

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:33 (seven years ago)

So is Mayor Pete the Emilio Estevez character or more of an Ally Sheedy?

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:38 (seven years ago)

Iowa and New Hampshire voters rise up as one and say "Literally anyone with a pink penis will be fine with us!"

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:41 (seven years ago)

can't stay off the white man's dick long enough to get anything material done.

Yerac, Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:43 (seven years ago)

betomania, we hardly knew ye

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:49 (seven years ago)


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