2020 Democratic presidential primary

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he'd be inaugurated a day after his 39th birthday, shy of 4 years younger than TR was when McKinley stopped clinging to life and a bit over 4 years younger than JFK at his inauguration, so the youngest president by a lot

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:37 (seven years ago)

whew, thanks guys, it sure would be embarrassing if dems accidentally nominated someone too young to be prez. They'd have to do the primary all over again!

Dan I., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:39 (seven years ago)

If we elect someone too young they can just have a regent rule until they reach 35

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:43 (seven years ago)

Read that as Reagan rule, which, yeah.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:00 (seven years ago)

don't think you can necessarily superimpose this over specific candidates in 2020, particularly so early in the race, but it's worth keeping in mind:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/08/upshot/democratic-electorate-twitter-real-life.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:06 (seven years ago)

What a useless piece. 'Non-Twitter users are more moderate than Twitter users' - no shit, they're older.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:19 (seven years ago)

i think the takeaway here is that there's a tendency by people who are extremely online as well as by the media, who make up a significant portion of that extremely online contingent, to overemphasize certain political trends/candidates. as the piece points out, more than half of the Dem electorate has zero opinion or perhaps even awareness of AOC, which if you mistook Twitter for the broader Dem universe (which, duh, you're right, it's not, but which a hell of a lot of media folks seem to act as though it is) would seem inconceivable.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:50 (seven years ago)

and AOC is just one, relatively harmless example. harmless i mean compared to say, the popularity and potential staying power of Joe Biden, which a lot of folks on the left may be severely underestimating.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:52 (seven years ago)

yeah i don't think it's age that's the factor (older people vote for donald trump and brexit due to anti immigrant sentiments, that's not moderate). but as evol j says twitter is a self-selecting community that by its very nature contains way more extremely socialist or extremely fascist people than you will encounter irl

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:54 (seven years ago)

I don't think anyone's underestimating him, he leads every poll. There's just a hope that he self-destructs as he has previously.

The most very-online lefty Twitter users know that Obama remains popular, would win in 2020 by a landslide if he could run and that residual glow makes Biden dangerous.

I don't see this landscape where anyone mistakes Twitter for tea leaves that tell a political future.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 19:02 (seven years ago)

xp - the key part that's revealing about age is the political correctness question.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 19:03 (seven years ago)

NEW: Bernie Sanders says he will release 10 years of his tax returns by Monday. He's now a millionaire. “I wrote a best-selling book,” he told me. “If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too.”https://t.co/yI0NE1R9gW

— Sheryl Gay Stolberg (@SherylNYT) April 9, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:12 (seven years ago)

I hope his campaign pivots on this and just becomes an itemized list of how you, too, can write a best-selling book.

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:13 (seven years ago)

He's right, you know. I'm going to write one.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:16 (seven years ago)

starting Monday "he's a millionaire / hypocrite / champagne socialist" will be the principal attack line against him in perpetuity, I expect.

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:18 (seven years ago)

i would only be surprised by his taxes if he turned out to be banksy. It would be hard to explain the additional income from arthouse auctions.

Yerac, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:26 (seven years ago)

bernie claims to be a socialist yet he owns shoes and regularly purchases food with money he has ‘earned’

interesting

sexual consent... on the blockchain (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:36 (seven years ago)

well we are going to find out about his payments from deutsche bank so you can understand his reluctance

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:36 (seven years ago)

#kompromatskaya #resist

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:37 (seven years ago)

swallwell eh?

brimstead, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:41 (seven years ago)

he looks like the dude who played Hugh Sloan in All the President's Men. He's a solid, intelligent congressman who belongs on cable TV.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:44 (seven years ago)

The hideous Hillaryite gay blog commenters are saying of Bernie "he's never addressed that a lot of his support is fake"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:22 (seven years ago)

russian bots

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:24 (seven years ago)

i do completely fucking hate millionaires

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:51 (seven years ago)

Write a book about it

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:52 (seven years ago)

pfft sounds like a trap

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:53 (seven years ago)

starting Monday "he's a millionaire / hypocrite / champagne socialist" will be the principal attack line against him in perpetuity, I expect.

― Simon H., Tuesday, April 9, 2019 2:18 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is well and good but i'm happy to stick with 'he's an old fool'

shoulda zagged (esby), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:55 (seven years ago)

he will still be the "poorest" candidate by some distance, I would think? or is there another contender

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:58 (seven years ago)

it's true that i hate all the candidates

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:01 (seven years ago)

v reasonable stance tbh

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:07 (seven years ago)

i do completely fucking hate millionaires

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:51 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Write a book about it

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:52 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago)

lol joke's on you i already hate myself

j., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:32 (seven years ago)

itt humblebrags

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:39 (seven years ago)

with that self-loathing more like grumblebrags

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:40 (seven years ago)

he will still be the "poorest" candidate by some distance, I would think? or is there another contender

I would think that Buttigieg is less rich. Unless his father's Gramsci translation did Bernie numbers and it was passed down.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:00 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg went to Harvard and worked for McKinsey. Then had no expenses while in the military and then moved to south bend Indiana. He might be in better financial shape than Castro.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:06 (seven years ago)

NY Times w/ page-one poll warning "All the non-Twitter Dems are mmmmmoderate, u better nominate a Goldman Sachs pal"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:51 (seven years ago)

Mike Gravel just sent out this email, with the subject line "Fuck Tucker Carlson":

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D30SrIIWsAEsfy2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D30SsHXXsAEdHD7.jpg

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:31 (seven years ago)

I love the Gravel teens.

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:35 (seven years ago)

NEW: Bernie Sanders would support eliminating the legislative filibuster to pass Medicare for All when there is a simple majority in favor. From his statement: pic.twitter.com/0EZgWEFb17

— Greg Krieg (@GregJKrieg) April 10, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:38 (seven years ago)

'requiring a talking filibuster'... What's going on...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:01 (seven years ago)

to the best of my knowledge, the easy method of filibuster is simply voting not to close debate on a bill (cloture) so a bill cannot be brought to a final vote. The hard method is continuing to "debate" by actually speaking on the floor of the Senate. This usually turns out to be a Senator reading aloud from something irrelevant to an empty chamber.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:13 (seven years ago)

retaining the talking filibuster is a way of saying you aren't violating the sacred tradition of unlimited debate in the senate, while still fixing the parliamentary maneuver that is now what we mostly know as the "filibuster"

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:15 (seven years ago)

That won't fix a damn thing. Definitely won't get M4A passed. Completely nonsensical.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:17 (seven years ago)

shut up, Fred

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:17 (seven years ago)

lol

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:20 (seven years ago)

folks, let me be clear. we can 51 fred again. it will be funny.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:22 (seven years ago)

the full statement is clearer but does not seem to say what the original poster says it did? odd

Here is Sanders' full statement. Includes their plan to use reconciliation in certain circumstances: pic.twitter.com/yFMP9aJMCM

— Greg Krieg (@GregJKrieg) April 10, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 22:27 (seven years ago)

I told my wife that one of the thing Mayor Pete was interested in (according to his Breakfast Club interview). She looked it up quickly and turns out South Bend teachers make less than the average Indiana teacher. Also, he talked about how we need to bring city-style politics into national politics?! Last time I checked, city governments weren't any less corrupt than any other level of government.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:07 (seven years ago)

I told my wife that one of the thing Mayor Pete was interested in (according to his Breakfast Club interview) was increasing teacher pay.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:07 (seven years ago)

It all feels very Obama with him.

DJI, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:08 (seven years ago)


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