2020 Democratic presidential primary

If I include Sanders at all, it's from a sense of obligation. I really don't want him.

I think Harris and Bernie could both stand toe-to-toe w/ Trump and take him down on the campaign trail, not sure I feel the same about Warren

Youtube really wants me to watch Andrew Yang debate Ben Shapiro right now. :(

"the Industrial Revolution, Universal Basic Income, climate change, circumcision, and much more"

nooooooooo

hahahaha

My picks at the moment, descending order:

Warren
Sanders
Harris

And I'm lying: I'm attracted to Harris as a candidate despite Sanders besting her on policy because she's younger and in the right setting can be as articulate as Buttigieg.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 7, 2019 11:46 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If I include Sanders at all, it's from a sense of obligation. I really don't want him.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 7, 2019 11:52 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is me exactly

why the sense of obligation? there are over 7 dozen people to pick from, just follow yr heart

Harris > Warren >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buttigeig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanders > Beto/Biden/Booker/Gillibrand/Klobuchar

Yang's slogan:

Vote Yang and show the world your sense of self-worth isn't as over-inflated as it looks to everyone else.

why the sense of obligation? there are over 7 dozen people to pick from, just follow yr heart

― Karl Malone, Sunday, April 7, 2019

follow my what?

it's a vegan brand i think

daiya>>>>>>>follow your heart

follow my what?

your heart. it's that place where you think about which candidate you would rather have a beer with

def klobuchar

would rather have a what with?

beer, the magic drink that makes white working class voters like you when you drink it with them

i bet beto drinks a beer
<3

I heard Beto is the only one that kept his cds.

hearts and beers -- you people trying to kill your favorite poster?

trying to unpack unperson’s preference metrics...maybe something to do w/ astrology?

Beto probably knows some great IPAs.

Feels a bit like Mayor Pete is more likely to end up in the Kamala/Beto/Biden half of the draw rather than Warren/Bernie half. On the one hand its a more crowded and tougher half, but on the other media backing can go a long way there

Bernie probably knows how to hang. I’ll bet you can het him talking about gramsci after a few

Warren is fun but she’s too good at darts and always wants to play and show people. Like, enough

Sanders doesn't look like much of a reader, actually

Idk he has glasses

How much money do you think he puts in the grandkids' birthday cards?

love Bernie, love the way he heroically got sensible policies that seemed radical to America right up to the top of discussion, but he is toooooooooo oooooooooooold. A Bernie / Harris ticket would be p dope if the VP had an actual role, like Secretary of Ass-Kicking or something.

Bernie's wellspring of support is fired by him being able to state very very moderate centrist ideas as though they're fiery revolutionary standards, like "ppl shouldn't die in the street" and "ppl should be able to get an education."

Warren is dropping similarly calm and sensible policies like "regulate the companies actively destroying our personal lives and democracy," and "let's not have children machine-gunned to death on the reg," but coming off as a nice older neighbourhood lady offering you tea. I don't know whether that will be a benefit or a liability.

Harris is OK. Her history might not be great, but an effective leader who can channel and enact the will of the party and the people is a rare skill, and she might have it. Also, there's nobody I'd rather see debate Trump three times right now.

(A Warren / Harris ticket would be great, but I just can't see an old lady / brown lady duo winning enough voters in the right states in the 2020 that we have.)

Mayor Pete seems nice, is plainly smart, and isn't atrocious on policy as far as we can tell yet. I'm very happy for him to stay on the national stage for now, and will continue to sing his name to the tune of Ed O'Neill singing "Bootytime! Bootytime! Across the USA" for as long as he does.

Inslee would be a very good middle-aged white man president. If he can get on Fox a bunch and explain in clear language why climate change is actually gonna fuck up people's homes and businesses they patronise, that's a win.

Gillibrand seems decent, but the sort that would be effective in a parliamentary system where you get genuine support from members of your party and lead a faction, not a TV-based popular vote? idk, put her on TV more and I'll get more of an idea.

Booker seems high on his own supply but I haven't looked into him at all.

Klobuchar is a liability.

If Yang walks back his circumcision policy, he's lost me.

Biden should be fired into the sun at the first available opportunity. Beto is Yung Biden.

I know it requires giving the site clicks, but did anyone watch Sanders on FOX the other night?

oh never mind -- it's next week.

trying to unpack unperson’s preference metrics...maybe something to do w/ astrology?

Harris has decent policies and the steely prosecutorial mindset required to lead a massive international death machine/empire.

Warren is economically the smartest one out there, and having been a senator will be aware of just how limited her ability to convince the Confederate Party to do anything actually is.

Buttigeig seems smart and relatively sensible, but he's way too high on his own sensible-ness; if he was 25 years older he'd sound a lot more like Howard Schultz. Fortunately, he's not.

Sanders is an obnoxious asshole who can go fuck himself, but he's a nudge better on policy (despite a lifetime of non-accomplishment) than all the anonymous hacks and nobodies I stuffed together at the end.

(A Warren / Harris ticket would be great, but I just can't see an old lady / brown lady duo winning enough voters in the right states in the 2020 that we have.)

name the states bc im not convinced they cant win

Why is warren old and inslee middle aged. They are one year apart. Does hitting ***69*** officially make one old?

yeah he’s such an asshole fighting for people’s rights like that, isn’t he?

the steely prosecutorial mindset required to lead a massive international death machine/empire.

oh okay I get it now. you’re a fucking fascist

What do you think the US president actually does?

there are more positive things to say about KH than “she can carry out our death machine duties very efficiently”

Kamala/Beto/Biden half

whoa now, let's leave kamala out of the beto/biden crew

she looks like she kicks off her heels and has a dirty martini at the end of the day.

follow your heel

Of all the Democratic candidates, Harris is the one I'd most like to have an actual social interaction with.

yep, same

but you're also right that, like Obama, her coolness would make her an uncannily frightening executor of the national security apparatus.

i think a more interesting question is which (if any) of these candidates are so bad that you would not vote for them in nov 2020 vs donald trump. like, even beto or biden. if that was who somehow in the primary, and my choice is between them and trump? i suppose in my case (in illinois) i might do a comedy write-in vote or vote for whatever surprise 3rd party candidate with no chance at all, because of the electoral college, the greatest election system in the world. but in a competitive state, or in a state where they'll probably lose, i would definitely vote for them.

I will vote for any Democrat over Donald Trump.

I live in an irrelevant state, I would not vote for Biden.

whoa now, let's leave kamala out of the beto/biden crew

― Karl Malone,

It wasn't to say they are in the same category policy wise, just that the half of the drawer where media backing will go

milo we live in a state in which a dem narrowly lost a senate race, its not irrelevant anymore. it's not wyoming.

xp

name the states bc im not convinced they cant win

I would be extremely happy if they did! But a lot of the midterms came close to flipping but not close enough, and local elections can be more flippable than national, bcz of the personal connection. (This can go both ways: after 25 years in Warringah, Tony Abbott is now polling with a 12% swing against him... which was his entire margin in '16.) I'm wary of Florida, Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, doubtful on Maine and Texas, and a wall-sized ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on Georgia rn. MI, PA and WI I don't understand at all.

Why is warren old and inslee middle aged. They are one year apart. Does hitting ***69*** officially make one old?

😏

(I was using "old lady / brown lady" as a classification that ppl who don't want to vote for them would apply, not my own positive feelings. And while I was applying similar dipshit voter framing to Inslee, he's totally older than I thought (but two years younger than Warren).)