2020 Democratic presidential primary

Whats the general consensus about how this is going to pan out? Is there anything to suggest this isn't going to end up as a run off between Kamala and Bernie?

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― Simon H., Sunday, April 7, 2019 10:47 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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― you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Sunday, April 7, 2019 10:48 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't he say this verbatim in the Morning Joe interview everyone was super impressed by?

or one of the big interviews. maybe not the Morning Joe one.

Kamala is consistently polling like 4th or 5th iirc? Bernie vs Beto seems more likely at this point. (I still think Biden might not run at all and the Dem establishment will coalesce around Beto, or possibly Mayor Pete.) But there's still a long way to go. xxp

my evershifting preferences:

warren
sanders
-
mayor pete
-
harris
inslee (i know)
...
gillibrand
booker
castro
biden
...
beto
klobuchar
biden

on buttigieg, i must admit that i'm persuaded by his ability to consistently form complete sentences that contain arguments, even when i don't agree with them. he is very smart, and i find that to be an electable quality. i can see him being an affective administrator and leader. people who work for him probably don't have to clean his hairbrush after he eats with it. they probably enjoy working for him? i think i would? i don't know, prepared to eat shit on all of that

that's right, an affective administrator. i stand by it

inslee is pretty good, no shame in that placement imo

Bernie is def TOO OLD but with the right VP I could see it working

beto o'rourke having a chance is so dumb. why are people so dumb!

xps mb fair enough, I just don't see the advantage—if the goal is to see EW's positions forwarded— to positing her opposite Bernie, with whom she is more or less in lockstep, than the dozen+ moderate candidates already crowding the field

Something about his hair disturbs me: like a newscaster at a south Indiana ABC affiliate in 1985.

Mayor Pete, that is.

Kamala is consistently polling like 4th or 5th iirc? Bernie vs Beto seems more likely at this point. (I still think Biden might not run at all and the Dem establishment will coalesce around Beto, or possibly Mayor Pete.) But there's still a long way to go. xxp

― Simon H., Sunday, 7 April 2019

Thanks, appreciate your take! Biden seems dead in the water to me, he always polls well at first until he speaks. and, 'he stood next to Obama a few times' isn't a good strategy. Agree the Dem establishment will coalesce around one candidate, and probably early, but Beto seems to have got off to a poor start? Doesn't seem to be clicking, and Kamala ticks a lot of boxes for an establishment choice, more so than Beto if you're looking for one to go with against Bernie?

xp

with inslee i'm having terrible flashbacks to the month or so that i supported john edwards in 2008 because his climate policy was stronger than obama/clinton and it helped to push them in a better direction. and also i know he has absolutely no chance of winning. his purpose is to push the other candidates on climate change, and i hope he succeeds

xxp he's got that Nathan Fielder look

beto o'rourke having a chance is so dumb. why are people so dumb!

but crut - he stands on a dusty highway in a clean white shirt, and he's handsome!

omg, if mayor pete became president and SNL hired nathan fielder...all bets are off but if nothing else SNL would immediately become literally 4324028532 trillions times better than the dogshit it's been for 40 years

My picks at the moment, descending order:

Warren
Sanders
Harris

And I'm lying: I'm attracted to Harris as a candidate despite Sanders besting her on policy because she's younger and in the right setting can be as articulate as Buttigieg.

Alfred otm. I think it'd be a much healthier primary if it were Harris instead of Biden or O'Rourke in the establishment seat. Also I think she panders better than either of them.

If SNL actually reached out to Nathan Fielder I would hope he'd be smart enough to turn it down.

she panders better than either of them

otm and I don't entirely mean it as a diss

If I include Sanders at all, it's from a sense of obligation. I really don't want him.

I think Harris and Bernie could both stand toe-to-toe w/ Trump and take him down on the campaign trail, not sure I feel the same about Warren

Youtube really wants me to watch Andrew Yang debate Ben Shapiro right now. :(

"the Industrial Revolution, Universal Basic Income, climate change, circumcision, and much more"

nooooooooo

hahahaha

My picks at the moment, descending order:

Warren
Sanders
Harris

And I'm lying: I'm attracted to Harris as a candidate despite Sanders besting her on policy because she's younger and in the right setting can be as articulate as Buttigieg.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 7, 2019 11:46 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If I include Sanders at all, it's from a sense of obligation. I really don't want him.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 7, 2019 11:52 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is me exactly

why the sense of obligation? there are over 7 dozen people to pick from, just follow yr heart

Harris > Warren >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buttigeig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanders > Beto/Biden/Booker/Gillibrand/Klobuchar

Yang's slogan:

Vote Yang and show the world your sense of self-worth isn't as over-inflated as it looks to everyone else.

why the sense of obligation? there are over 7 dozen people to pick from, just follow yr heart

― Karl Malone, Sunday, April 7, 2019

follow my what?

it's a vegan brand i think

daiya>>>>>>>follow your heart

follow my what?

your heart. it's that place where you think about which candidate you would rather have a beer with

def klobuchar

would rather have a what with?

beer, the magic drink that makes white working class voters like you when you drink it with them

i bet beto drinks a beer
<3

I heard Beto is the only one that kept his cds.

hearts and beers -- you people trying to kill your favorite poster?

trying to unpack unperson’s preference metrics...maybe something to do w/ astrology?

Beto probably knows some great IPAs.

Feels a bit like Mayor Pete is more likely to end up in the Kamala/Beto/Biden half of the draw rather than Warren/Bernie half. On the one hand its a more crowded and tougher half, but on the other media backing can go a long way there

Bernie probably knows how to hang. I’ll bet you can het him talking about gramsci after a few

Warren is fun but she’s too good at darts and always wants to play and show people. Like, enough

Sanders doesn't look like much of a reader, actually

Idk he has glasses

How much money do you think he puts in the grandkids' birthday cards?

love Bernie, love the way he heroically got sensible policies that seemed radical to America right up to the top of discussion, but he is toooooooooo oooooooooooold. A Bernie / Harris ticket would be p dope if the VP had an actual role, like Secretary of Ass-Kicking or something.

Bernie's wellspring of support is fired by him being able to state very very moderate centrist ideas as though they're fiery revolutionary standards, like "ppl shouldn't die in the street" and "ppl should be able to get an education."

Warren is dropping similarly calm and sensible policies like "regulate the companies actively destroying our personal lives and democracy," and "let's not have children machine-gunned to death on the reg," but coming off as a nice older neighbourhood lady offering you tea. I don't know whether that will be a benefit or a liability.

Harris is OK. Her history might not be great, but an effective leader who can channel and enact the will of the party and the people is a rare skill, and she might have it. Also, there's nobody I'd rather see debate Trump three times right now.

(A Warren / Harris ticket would be great, but I just can't see an old lady / brown lady duo winning enough voters in the right states in the 2020 that we have.)

Mayor Pete seems nice, is plainly smart, and isn't atrocious on policy as far as we can tell yet. I'm very happy for him to stay on the national stage for now, and will continue to sing his name to the tune of Ed O'Neill singing "Bootytime! Bootytime! Across the USA" for as long as he does.

Inslee would be a very good middle-aged white man president. If he can get on Fox a bunch and explain in clear language why climate change is actually gonna fuck up people's homes and businesses they patronise, that's a win.

Gillibrand seems decent, but the sort that would be effective in a parliamentary system where you get genuine support from members of your party and lead a faction, not a TV-based popular vote? idk, put her on TV more and I'll get more of an idea.

Booker seems high on his own supply but I haven't looked into him at all.

Klobuchar is a liability.

If Yang walks back his circumcision policy, he's lost me.

Biden should be fired into the sun at the first available opportunity. Beto is Yung Biden.

I know it requires giving the site clicks, but did anyone watch Sanders on FOX the other night?