Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

So much for the Brexiteers confident assertion that the EU would cave in at the last minute and give the UK everything it wanted.

No spoilers but i think a bunch of people probably talked a lot of bullshit during the rational debate of the referendum

I thought the UK already had a really individualistically privileged place in the EU, is that why some people thunk they could get away with the idea of Brexit with no downside?

Post empire Anglo exceptionalism. Like the American version but more deluded.

my fave 2 word delineation of the delusional or mendacious guff chatted by ERG/Boris etc was D Edgerton's "demented revivalism".

I read the opinion as that people shouldn’t dismiss the UKIP vote as being due to Neil Hamilton being on a tv show.

― gyac, Friday, 5 April 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, its just patronising to hear people just vote base on whether you appeared on TV, and Hamilton hardly had his own TV show. Someone like Trump - a no experience politician who has his own TV show for a decade - complicates this but he is a one-off. Or so I'd like to think, a few politicians are getting their own radio shows and I wonder where all that will end up.

The UKIP vote isn't going away and will probably rise the worse things look for Brexiters, but there is minimal value either electorally or morally for Labour in trying to pander to these people, especially in a seat like Newport with a 44% Remain vote. UKIP vote is likely to be primarily at the expense of the Tories at this stage anyway - this is terrible for the country if the Tories stay in, but anyone who thinks that Brexit is a bigger driver than either austerity or general economic decline is kidding themselves.

― Matt DC, Friday, 5 April 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The one good thing is that the Tories aren't going to get away with fucking up Brexit. I guess its just where it cuts in marginals and that's why it would be good to have more detailed polling in those places.

Thing is I think politicians of all colours are heavily underestimating the sheer amount of ANXIETY out there, while they're either trying to force a deal through or frustrate it through endless parliamentary tactics there are hundreds of thousands of people out worrying whether they are still going to have a job, a business, stock in their local supermarket, access to vital medication in a few months' time. I don't think it automatically translates into "well as long as Labour eventually get in and make everything better that's alright". A lot of people, not just wacky placard guys, feel very angry about being left out of a decision-making process that massively affects their lives. People don't like the WA but they like the uncertainty less.

When it passes, unless there's a miraculous resolution, this is likely to be an almost uniquely reviled generation of politicians. It is already.

It feels like such a colossal waste, not just of time and resources, but of sleepness nights for people who are worried about the consequences. Then you see protests like last Friday and think "is that really what all this is for? For that lot?"

(It's also about keeping the Conservative Party together as well, and tbh if it's a toss-up between affordable food and the Tories I know which one I prefer).

We suspect we’ll be hearing a lot of Brexit albums this year, as nearly a dozen have already been announced. Borders is one of the best, capturing the claustrophobia of xenophobia through clouds of drone and the sadness of a breakup..

it seems lots of formerly apolitical musos have decided to enlist at clown-school make their very important aural brexit statement .. lads..

me me me mp interview on ridge. how is she everywhere

..that's another funny thing about me ... etc .. fucking insufferable.

D Edgerton's juxtaposition of Thatcher's state funeral whilst Blair was filling his boots working with genocide merchants was a beautiful denouement to Rise and Fall.

Trolling done correctly.. #ukip #Brexit 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/RQF0oV2dYd

— Lord McHaggis 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@lordmchaggis_) April 6, 2019

i'm in yr thread, posting a twitter meme

This is fine pic.twitter.com/lFayzmqZ0t

— HappyToast ★ (@IamHappyToast) April 7, 2019

The glass of water being on fire is a nice touch. Brexit so fucked at this point that even water burns.

Happy Sunday! Excited to say I’m tending to a community garden plot for the next few months :)

It’s a 4x4 plot we get to tend to now through Sept.

Any green-thumbs out with sage🌱 words of advice?

What should I plant? (Ideally at least 1 edible thing but we can do flowers too)

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) April 7, 2019

For a new plot, first see what is already growing! Then go for some flowers and plants that attract bees and thus improve pollination for everyone - lavender or comfrey good for bees. Best way to be healthy is to get your hands dirty - in the soil!

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) April 7, 2019

good job she didn't ask him about galvanised steel drain covers!

lmao

Tim Shipman in the Times:

In No 10 there had been advocates of May shaking things up by calling a snap general election. Any notion that this was an attractive notion had been swiftly expunged earlier on Tuesday when cabinet ministers were given a presentation by the party chairman, Brandon Lewis, and the chief executive, Mick Davis.

Shellshocked cabinet ministers listened as party chiefs explained that their internal polling showed that “Labour leads on all domestic issues”, with the cost of living, the NHS and the environment topping voters’ lists of concerns. Davis explained that the party did not have enough money in the bank. He also argued for a different approach on Brexit, warning that business was “grotesquely unprepared for no deal”.

> shaking things up by calling a snap general election

these people have short memories

He also argued for a different approach on Brexit, warning that business was “grotesquely unprepared for no deal”.

fuckin' conservatism, how does it work

them having a huge election war chest was wasted on them anyway, they got totally outperformed by momentum on social media and wasted a fortune on rubbish FB ads. If a snap election is called they might have to try channel some of that "british genius" some of them are so keen on evoking.

There are probably advocates in No. 10 of shaking things up by licking batteries, tbf.

pointless having a GE it will just be another hung parliament have you seen the polls worst tory government ever yvette cooper would be 100 points ahead

^^^LOOOOOOOOOL

fuckin' conservatism, how does it work

I half a half-born thought that one of the reasons this is all going so appallingly is that the Conservative party is fundamentally unsuited for the type of revolution they find themselves embarking on: they have no idea of how to sell it, no way of projecting it, no experience in executing on a strategy to deliver it and a core vote that's fundamentally too small-c conservative to actually accept it. Which is why they're reduced to selling this massive economic restructuring and repositioning as "it won't be that bad, it'll be much the same as before, in the end".

you're not gonna believe this but apparently the irish border might cause some minor bijou problemettes with trade post-brexit

The barriers facing Northern Ireland farmers exporting across the border to food processing plants have been spelt out in a no-deal notice just published by the Irish government.

The notice for businesses importing animal or animal products shows almost insurmountable challenges under EU rules. It says:

Consignments of animals and animal products must be presented at the border inspection post at the point of first arrival in the EU for official controls in compliance with EU legislation.

This presents an immediate challenge as the only border inspection posts in Ireland are in Dublin Airport, Dublin Port and Shannon Airport.

Even if a bare-bones deal was struck with border inspection posts away from the border, it would take months to build; Eurotunnel have taken three months to complete their new post.

Leo Varadkar, the taoiseach, and Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, are likely to discuss the contingency plans for border inspection post controls when they meet this afternoon but so far there has been no indication where these checks can be made.

Farmers must also be registered for the EU’s trade control and expert system in order to qualify as a third country exporter into the EU.

Another headache for exporters is that they must provide the buyer across the border their veterinary documents required for entry into the EU “at least 24 hours in advance”.

This will be a massive hurdle for anyone who owns a farm that straddles both sides of the border or dairy farmers who have their milk collected daily by one of the big co-ops south of the border.

Dairy UK has already warned that the 19p a litre tariff on milk would almost certainly kill this trade raising the prospect of an unwanted milk lake.

theyre taking agriculture inspectors out of retirement lads its printing money we are down here

wait an UNWANTED milk lake you say

matter of opinion!

https://resgerendae.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/asterix-5.jpg

Get a cement mixer full of nesquik powder imo

Regrettably missed opportunity to post a pic of Amanda Barrie in Carry On Cleo imo.

august 2019: post-brexit commons descends into new chaos as mps struggle to decide whether the uk's milk lake should be strawberry, chocolate, vanilla or banana-flavoured

Hippo was right - were you?

xp there's a particularly trenchant meme going around right now comparing process of brexit so far to choice of ice cream flavour, wouldn't want to inflict it on anyone tbph

apparently the irish border is going to be a problem lads idk?

not after reunification

these EU elections are going to be vile aren't they

rEU-NIfication

my god it was staring us in the face all along

get cracking, deems. spread the good word.

those that cared to hear know

those that dont wont thank me even were i of a mind

Freemen on the European land have arrived

So this is doing the rounds amongst gammons... pic.twitter.com/1WFxy1dr7C

— 🐬 Bob the *Sick-of-this-shit* Dolphin 🐬 (@bobthe_dolphin) April 7, 2019

far be it from me to question internet lawyers but lol "independance"

ah, just seen all the other solecisms

in fact it's too much, it's fake isn't it?

a rare opportunity for the FBPEeps to enjoy a bit of grammar school snobbery tho

I hereby renounce the authority of any entity over my freedoms, apart from that of my parents (deceased), and hereinafter expect all governments or other entities to respect such freedoms as I may from time to time assert by speaking the formula "You're not my mother" or, alternatively "You're not the boss of me".

“Immingration”

You are using their words.

boarders?