Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

(xp) She's obviously the brains of the outfit though, so fair enough.

There was also a big Louis Theroux show on the Hamiltons xp

their musical was a big deal iirc

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hamilton fucked over a presentation i did at the eisteddfod. they don’t normally allow english speakers but i was doing something on helping sensorially impaired welsh speakers, and it was felt to be a legitimate exception.

but the day before hamilton had just crashed through the normal rules, insisting on both appearing and speaking english. it created a reasonably well-publicised fuss.

it meant the next day i had to stand on a stage and whisper my presentation to a welsh speaker, who then relayed it through the microphone to the gathered hordes*.

*small group of elderly people and two academics.

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(xp) LOL, I remember that story from a FAP.

like a boris mini-me, hamilton is a professional politician with a foot in the haw-haw-what-larks HIGNFY psuedo-satirical realm -- which allows him to be seen (by locals that so choose) as a kind of marker of how the rest the political and the media establishments still refuse the revealed anti-establishment truths of brexit, precisely because here's someone boldly breaking with both to tell the truth blah blah. a perverse echo of martin bell when he ran against hamilton, in fact.

this kind of stuff is amplified in by-elections though, and usually irrelevant in GEs

I had to go into BBC London to record an item one afternoon in the late ‘90s and had to wait in reception to be called, so went to take the available seat next to John Cooper Clarke, also there to record an item (rule: always sit next to the other person wearing black in reception). We chatted politely for a few minutes and suddenly realised we were being observed/stared at by the couple opposite - Neil and Christine Hamilton, dressed like the golf Nazis they are.

there was a Twitter account that reported UK events in the same sort of language that Western media use to report on Africa, S America etc but i guess no one would now recognise it as satire
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:25 (yesterday)

bit late here but if this is @jsphctrl aka FT Southern Africa correspondent Joseph Cotterill he's still going, intermittently

Subdued, abandoning the hardline attacks on legislators of only a few days earlier yet still defiantly refusing to countenance elections, the ex-security chief gambled on the opposition agreeing to talks.

— Joseph Cotterill (@jsphctrl) April 2, 2019

if there's another one, please do link!

golf Nazis *yes* xp.

that's the one :)

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How a General Election would look if 18-24's only were allowed to vote:

Seats || Votes

LAB: 541 || 55.0%
SNP: 56 || 4.5%
LDM: 25 || 14.0%
SF: 10 || 0.9%
PLC: 4 || 0.7%
DUP: 4 || 0.4%
CON: 3 || 14.5%
IND: 2
GRN: 1 || 2.0%
UUP: 1 || 0.4%
ALL: 1 || 0.4%
SDLP: 1 || 0.3% pic.twitter.com/yIkpL8OUhC

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) April 5, 2019

logan's run this shithole country now

Age group least likely to vote still?

turnout is less of an issue if everyone over 30 is dead tbf

a good heatwave coupled with a summer flu epidemic wouldn't quite be Logan's Run, but some of them dead tory bastards wouldn't be voting again - although they'd still retain party membership of course.

it might take me out as well like!

it's for the good of the country, thx for your service

Would be interesting to see an equivalent map from decades past.

Lol @ Wales, Conservatism's last bastion.

yeah EK i guess that's most of the point - how unprecedented are those kind of figures?

Lol @ Wales, Conservatism's last bastion.

Struggling to find this funny tbh.

I can't believe some of these young 'uns aren't bowled over by Liz Truss' dazzling rhetoric equating users of precarious employment/gig-economy services as "freedom fighters".

% of Tory seats in Wales: 20%
% of Tory seats in Scotland: 22%

dunno about the electorate totals per Tory seats in either rn tho

It's funny in that my Welsh friends get very huffy about the fact that they joined England in voting to leave - I saw Simon Price spout some Manics Lexit shite at a house party once - so having Wales be more Tory than England is funny, is how.

I mean this is all under FPTP, worst of all systems.

Hello, welcome to Britain's Brexit challenge pic.twitter.com/GonG3Z84Dg

— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) April 5, 2019

in the worst of all unions xp

there is no 18-24 data for wales so it's the only bit of the map using figures for 18-34

Why does this keep happening pic.twitter.com/ripXdY6pws

— HakQanono (@hoennzollern) April 4, 2019

"I saw Simon Price spout some Manics Lexit shite at a house party once"

lol .. I'd long forgotten about things like ageing 80's goths talking shite about politics at house parties!

there is no 18-24 data for wales so it's the only bit of the map using figures for 18-34

There is no-one in Wales aged 18 to 24.

too old to leave, too young to dai

Kier Starmer: “so far the government is not countenacing any actual changes to the wording of the political declaration”

— Tom Rayner (@RaynerSkyNews) April 5, 2019

*if* May thinks she can bore Labohr into submission and if all that comes out at the end is more evidence of idiotic intransigence, well, she's just played the Tories once again

good luck UK

France has won the support of Spain and Belgium after signalling its readiness for a no-deal Brexit on 12 April if there are no significant new British proposals, according to a note of an EU27 meeting seen by the Guardian.

The diplomatic cable reveals that the French ambassador secured the support of Spanish and Belgian colleagues in arguing that there should only be, at most, a short article 50 extension to avoid an instant financial crisis, saying: “We could probably extend for a couple of weeks to prepare ourselves in the markets.”

The chances of Theresa May’s proposal of an extension to 30 June succeeding appeared slim as France’s position in the private diplomatic meeting was echoed by an official statement reiterating its opposition to any further Brexit delay without a clear British plan.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/05/france-spain-and-belgium-ready-for-no-deal-brexit-next-week

no deal me daddy

lol we’re all gonna die

So much for the Brexiteers confident assertion that the EU would cave in at the last minute and give the UK everything it wanted.

No spoilers but i think a bunch of people probably talked a lot of bullshit during the rational debate of the referendum

I thought the UK already had a really individualistically privileged place in the EU, is that why some people thunk they could get away with the idea of Brexit with no downside?

Post empire Anglo exceptionalism. Like the American version but more deluded.

my fave 2 word delineation of the delusional or mendacious guff chatted by ERG/Boris etc was D Edgerton's "demented revivalism".

I read the opinion as that people shouldn’t dismiss the UKIP vote as being due to Neil Hamilton being on a tv show.

― gyac, Friday, 5 April 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, its just patronising to hear people just vote base on whether you appeared on TV, and Hamilton hardly had his own TV show. Someone like Trump - a no experience politician who has his own TV show for a decade - complicates this but he is a one-off. Or so I'd like to think, a few politicians are getting their own radio shows and I wonder where all that will end up.

The UKIP vote isn't going away and will probably rise the worse things look for Brexiters, but there is minimal value either electorally or morally for Labour in trying to pander to these people, especially in a seat like Newport with a 44% Remain vote. UKIP vote is likely to be primarily at the expense of the Tories at this stage anyway - this is terrible for the country if the Tories stay in, but anyone who thinks that Brexit is a bigger driver than either austerity or general economic decline is kidding themselves.

― Matt DC, Friday, 5 April 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The one good thing is that the Tories aren't going to get away with fucking up Brexit. I guess its just where it cuts in marginals and that's why it would be good to have more detailed polling in those places.

Thing is I think politicians of all colours are heavily underestimating the sheer amount of ANXIETY out there, while they're either trying to force a deal through or frustrate it through endless parliamentary tactics there are hundreds of thousands of people out worrying whether they are still going to have a job, a business, stock in their local supermarket, access to vital medication in a few months' time. I don't think it automatically translates into "well as long as Labour eventually get in and make everything better that's alright". A lot of people, not just wacky placard guys, feel very angry about being left out of a decision-making process that massively affects their lives. People don't like the WA but they like the uncertainty less.

When it passes, unless there's a miraculous resolution, this is likely to be an almost uniquely reviled generation of politicians. It is already.

It feels like such a colossal waste, not just of time and resources, but of sleepness nights for people who are worried about the consequences. Then you see protests like last Friday and think "is that really what all this is for? For that lot?"

(It's also about keeping the Conservative Party together as well, and tbh if it's a toss-up between affordable food and the Tories I know which one I prefer).

We suspect we’ll be hearing a lot of Brexit albums this year, as nearly a dozen have already been announced. Borders is one of the best, capturing the claustrophobia of xenophobia through clouds of drone and the sadness of a breakup..

it seems lots of formerly apolitical musos have decided to enlist at clown-school make their very important aural brexit statement .. lads..

me me me mp interview on ridge. how is she everywhere