2020 Democratic presidential primary

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it's also tactically unsound, like pretty much all centrist attempts to meet the right half way by means testing a benefit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 5 April 2019 03:44 (seven years ago)

But he read Joyce so it all evens out

Simon H., Friday, 5 April 2019 04:18 (seven years ago)

I don't quite understand that Butt quote. I've never heard this argument before. I can kind of interpret it in my own way, that a lot of well paying jobs technically don't need higher education expertise but discriminately only hire people with college degrees. I have a liberal arts degree from a good school that has never been applicable to any of my nice jobs that would only hire higher ed graduates.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 12:34 (seven years ago)

yeah, it's very tangled reasoning. Isn't the idea that more people would choose to go to college if it were free?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2019 12:38 (seven years ago)

I probably should look up the context in which he said it. I'm into free college, but I also think other types of programs should carry the same weight as 4 year degrees. I especially think there needs to be free medical school programs.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 12:44 (seven years ago)

I probably would be just as happy if rich people transparently paid a very high fee to buy an elite school diploma without even going through the act of the kid attending school. That money can go into the education budget. It will free up physical space at schools, add funding and no one has to pretend.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 12:48 (seven years ago)

Not to keep beating up on Nathan J Robinson ( I totally am) but not everyone is able to attend a 4 yr private university, then go to Yale Law and then saunter over to try to get a Harvard PhD (maybe he got a stipend here) without being concerned about a decade of super pricey US tuition fees and no real job. That is extreme privilege.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 12:58 (seven years ago)

I kind of agree with Mayor Pete on this one. I’d like to see free college as an option in the US but I think it should be offered alongside an option of free technical school, apprenticeships, trade school etc for jobs that don’t or shouldn’t require a traditional 4 year degree.

o. nate, Friday, 5 April 2019 12:58 (seven years ago)

Is that what he's saying? It's not how I read the quote.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:03 (seven years ago)

the GI bill covers vocational training IIRC, so in my mind expanding "free college" naturally includes that

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:09 (seven years ago)

Yeah

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:09 (seven years ago)

But also if people want they should be able to take some time to explore greek literature or whatever

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:10 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg did.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:10 (seven years ago)

Maybe in theory it includes it, but the US is weak in this area compared to places like Germany and if I had to choose where to expend political capital to improve the status quo, I’d start there.

o. nate, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:12 (seven years ago)

Exploring greek literature is money. If you do not come from a well off family, you pretty much need to start earning as soon as you are able.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:13 (seven years ago)

Anyway, shut up, y'all, because Peggy Noonan drops science about Joe Biden.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:13 (seven years ago)

I liked reading that because of the paywall so I only got the first 4 paragraphs and am pretending that was the entire article.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:15 (seven years ago)

is there no hack to get past that paywall , who the fuck pays for TWSJ ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:30 (seven years ago)

I am sure I can read it incognito, but I don't want to.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:33 (seven years ago)

- the rich
- those who want to know how the rich think
- errr
- that's it

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:33 (seven years ago)

Xp yerac, yeah now that is the deal but it could be different. I’s want to work toward a world where people could spend their linited time on earth doing something besides scrambling to survive.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:34 (seven years ago)

I want to work toward a world where people can read Peggy Noonan without a fire wall.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:36 (seven years ago)

you get to read my takes for free i'm not sure why you feel deprived

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:38 (seven years ago)

a world where more people run the risk of being freely exposed to the slurry inside peggy noonan's skull is objectively worse imo

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:39 (seven years ago)

https://images.gawker.com/184e9f9viatsejpg/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800.jpg

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

who the fuck pays for TWSJ ?

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, April 5, 2019 6:30 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stepdads

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:44 (seven years ago)

I have a gen z (i think—dunno the cutoff) coworker who reads it every morning.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:45 (seven years ago)

I've got friends (in their early 40s) who I think subscribe to it, along with the Times. They really like most of the paper, the reporting and arts coverage and whatnot, enough to put up with the editorial side. One of them might need to get it for work, though.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:51 (seven years ago)

My friend’s parents read it—very liberal and cosmopolitan and mid-60s

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:56 (seven years ago)

I want to work toward a world where people can read Peggy Noonan without a fire wall.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, April 5, 2019 9:36 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I want to work toward a world where people can put Peggy Noonan against a wall and fire

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:59 (seven years ago)

Lovely

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:00 (seven years ago)

oh cmon not really

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:01 (seven years ago)

just like maybe w Super Soakers

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:02 (seven years ago)

I do not like all these Bernie emails specifying what I donated before the 2016 election. I don't know where that berning feeling went.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:03 (seven years ago)

They text me all the time

Trϵϵship, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:03 (seven years ago)

I want to work toward a world where people could spend their limited time on earth doing something besides scrambling to survive reading Peggy Noonan.

fixed

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

WSJ's news section remains excellent, their editorial page is a cloaca.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

'fortunately' i'm now too poor to even consider political donations, which keeps me from enabling the "money is speech" madness

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:09 (seven years ago)

I love hot cloaca on a winter evening

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:10 (seven years ago)

crossing a line

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:15 (seven years ago)

xpost After the 3rd Bernie text, I told them to stop texting me and they removed me completely.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:27 (seven years ago)

*waggles eyebrows suggestively at morbs*

since i had my cloaca installed in '08 i've enjoyed the luxury of freely picking and choosing from across the entire spectrum of pants, safe in the knowledge that everything from a jegging to a harem pant will be flattering AND comfortable

― 🎵oooh, kevin has a place in perth🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:00 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:00 (seven years ago)

NEW: Sen. Elizabeth Warren will call for elimination of the filibuster, endorsing a drastic change to Senate rules that would allow Democrats to pass sweeping, progressive bills w/ only a simple majority if they controlled the Senate w/ @Phil_Mattingly https://t.co/Ezo5W7y8ZC

— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) April 5, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 5 April 2019 15:04 (seven years ago)

I really wanted Warren to run in the last election, but cooled on her since then. Been warming back up this last week. She really is the strongest overall.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:06 (seven years ago)

here, have a hot cup of cloaca

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:07 (seven years ago)

If only you and Wm F Buckley had dueled with your thesauri.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:22 (seven years ago)

biden out here really showing his ass

mookieproof, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:08 (seven years ago)

.@JoeBiden invites kids on stage. "Everybody knows I like kids better than people." Also, "He gave me permission to touch him."

Watch full video here: https://t.co/WnmNr3JGba pic.twitter.com/edGivdq5WF

— CSPAN (@cspan) April 5, 2019

wtf ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:09 (seven years ago)

so I know the last comment is the inappropriate one but also lol at "I like kids better than people"

Simon H., Friday, 5 April 2019 16:19 (seven years ago)

well, they are kinda pre-people

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:23 (seven years ago)


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