Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

If the next election is in 2022 then I still don't think Corbyn will make it that far, but the idea of this lot serving the full five years is looking increasingly remote.

xeno's zugzwang

After hearing the reports of No Deal being decided against in cabinet on Tuesday evening, I was a little more hopeful - but Hammond on the Peston show last night, talking about the idea that the UK can get an extension but drop out as soon as a deal is agreed, has me back on No Deal watch.

The Jolyon M. article (I know how much everyone here loves Jolyon M) about how the amendment is so badly worded as to be pointless has put me back there too, along with Matt's observation that neither Corbyn nor May want to find a compromise, just be able to claim that they gave it a go. And talking of Matt's posts and No Deal...

In any case if we get No Deal then everybody dies for a few weeks and then the UK government goes right back to the negotiating table with zero leverage and we end up with basically the same thing anyway.

I regretfully assume that if they get their No Deal there's no way the Atlantic Bridge/MAGA-hat Brexiteers plan to let anyone talk to the EU until they've signed a deal with the US that sells the NHS off (oh dear, what a shame, forced by circumstances) - but can they hold out for long enough to rush a trade deal through when people are dying and/or rioting? How much would the regulatory alignment clauses etc in it hinder a worthwhile deal with the EU?

PS I know I'm out of my depth here, so I welcome any attempts to talk me out of my paranoid follies, as the good folks of the "lol we're all gonna die" thread are more levelheaded than I

(sorry to dig up posts from a dayA Long Time In Politics ago)

to be clear, May is not to be trusted and doesn't seem interested in budging an inch, so I absolutely don't blame Corbyn for the near-impossibility of a deal resulting from their talks, but it's still depressing to think through the game theory of the options available in such stark terms

Why would a trade deal with the US involve selling the NHS?

wasn't the TTIP thing about this? they'd insist on the right to bid for nhs contracts (and would sue if they lost).

https://fullfact.org/europe/does-ttip-mean-privatisation-nhs/

where "they" = american companies

just goggled 'ttip dead' and apparently no-one has written about that for over two years so will try 'ttip alive' next

trump cancelled it, i think. there's a comment i've just read about it being reinstated in 2018.

wikipedia:
Negotiations were halted by President Donald Trump, who then initiated a trade conflict with the EU. Trump and the EU declared a truce of sorts in July 2018, resuming talks that appeared similar to TTIP

and this being an eu-us treaty that would apply to the uk whilst it was part of the eu, was actually something that was mentioned as a left wing reason for supporting leave.

meanwhile a burst pipe in the commons means the sitting is suspended, the press gallery is abandoned, and the light fittings are filling up with water

Sabotage

the drowned god wants his isles back

I want to see them having snowball fights with deadly clumps of asbestos (which there is plenty of in that old building).

xps I was thinking of the TTIP worries (thanks koogs) and this paper from a thinktank affiliated with a few Brexity big names, from last year:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/18/rightwing-thinktanks-unveil-radical-plan-for-us-uk-brexit-trade-deal-nhs

and just in general of the crossover between prominent Leavers and wanting to privatise the NHS, which the public wouldn't accept without a good excuse, which perhaps really needing a trade deal counts as

I've read a few other articles on this theme but tbh most of the ones I can find are from the Independent and a bit shrieky so probably not very good exhibits

Sitting suspended until Tuesday so we’re getting bloody close to the wire now.

(Maybe they really should have tried to fix the literal roof while the sun was shining instead of using the phrase as a pretext to ruin the lives of disabled people.)

this job is even too big for pimlico plumbing, does that grayling lad know any half decent construction firms?

More from the nation that gave you Norman Wisdom and Mr. Bean.

globally self-clowning britain.

xxxp they weren’t debating Brexit so imagine they will have to amend the business of the house for next week to prioritise it

Leak!

Business in the House of Commons has been suspended after water started pouring from the chamber's roof (turn on your sound)https://t.co/BKgYHPJ9eU pic.twitter.com/LYRBqG4kIt

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) April 4, 2019

Actually looking at the parliamentary calendar I see the house has been deprived of an adjournment debate on “travellers in Mole Valley”.

Great fantasy trilogy mm

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-XgB3Xykb1M/maxresdefault.jpg

https://dygtyjqp7pi0m.cloudfront.net/i/21252/20807780_3.jpg

Also this is a few days late but I didn’t see this clip of “Brexit hardman Steve Baker”

“How are you feeling tonight?”

Steve Baker MP: “Well everyone knows i’m BREXIT HARDMAN STEVE BAKER as far as i’m aware..” pic.twitter.com/Mf4tI3nkmF

— James Davies (@jamesorharry) April 1, 2019

he definitely "irons out" his very smart shirts.

dire warnings of cheesebergs atop irish milk lakes:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/04/northern-ireland-faces-prospect-of-no-deal-brexit-milk-lake

yeah id say stuff will pile up unsold along the border alright def yeah

*winkkkkkk*

border molemen confiscating my cheddar suitcase, drowned god on the phone to satan

http://media.filmz.ru/players/img_4851.jpg

We would like to clarify this was not a sewage leak.

— Commons Press Office (@HoCPress) April 4, 2019

Reaction to mole valley makes me want to poop the somethingest constituency names - but what? Most evocative? Most likely to double as a character or a title on an underwatched daytime show?

POLL, ffs. Off to die now.

you would like to clarify that it was not a sewage leak

I’m very calm and just polling as I normally am

constituency names vmic

‘we would like to clarify that this was not a sewage leak’ = ‘commons is still full of shit’

I think if was re-fitting parliament there would be purpose built leaky soil pipes throughout, extraneous conductive parts that become 230v live without any protective devices, the stench of piss and shit everywhere. Just give the cunts something to think about next time they are voting down a landlord reform bill.

https://www.choleraandthethames.co.uk/cholera-in-london/the-great-stink/

Faraday despite being arguably the biggest genius of that era still didn't have the vocabulary to describe this "opaque pale brown fluid" he encountered!

what this opbf was I meant to say.

he took some back to his lab in 2 Faraday cups..

Always worth revisiting the Guardian article about how the House of Commons is basically a death trap:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/01/a-tale-of-decay-the-houses-of-parliament-are-falling-down

Though now I am worried about what could be done by Peter "Driza" Bone and a book of matches, say next Thursday?

when you look at these mind bogglingly huge infrastructure projects in China and in the UK a dusty old building refurb - keeping it operational is complex- but 40 fucking years lol!

lol on a 40 year job you'd spend about at least 6 years on the snag list, and then wonder why it was worth it as London starts joining Doggerland and Atlantis.

Dismissing people worried about running out of medicine in the event of a No Deal Brexit is a terrible look for both right Leavers and Lexiters. The NHS have admitted they cannot stockpile enough epilepsy, bipolar & neuropathic pain drugs. It’s a concern.

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) April 4, 2019

fucking great. Alex's epilepsy has come back with a vengeance this month. That's one more drug shortage in my house to worry about in a no-deal brexit.

What is the story on Lexit, is it still a thing at the moment. Always truck me as a stupid idea to go along with the exit under Tory control if you wanted the situation to turn more leftist once you'd left the EU. & probably better to try to set up a situation where one had more leftist control beforehand.
So is it still remotely vocal.
Heard SWP for one were pretty anti EU in the run up to the 2016 referendum.

The French European election debate is wild. 2 minutes in and someone has already taken out a baguette pic.twitter.com/i6L03alWdO

— Calum Paramor (@palumcaramor) April 4, 2019

yes I did it @HouseofCommons ! I bent the pipes, and I won't apologise, you all deserve it! #brexit #startfromscratch

— Uri Geller (@TheUriGeller) April 4, 2019

how much longer will we allow this psychic menace to thumb his nose at our great nation