2020 Democratic presidential primary

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NJR is a very good essayist but it’s not exactly the toughest gig, he’s not responsible for actually solving any problems.

CNN assesses Bernie's odds.

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Building a national organization is about a lot more than money, but money helps to pay staff and open campaign offices, so it does have an impact this early.

Oh ffs

INBOX: FOX News to host Town Hall with Democratic Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders pic.twitter.com/kLw7NiOBrk

— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) April 3, 2019

why not

I like this

Bernie will do his thing, and maybe some regular Fox viewers who wouldn't normally watch or hear Bernie speak will tune in.

Maybe if he doesn't win the nomination, he can become a regular guest on Tucker Carlson.

anything that F.B. disapproves of has got to work

Somebody explaining to a live audience of confused ppl how social security and medicare work

i for one am looking forward to bernie putting bret baier in a sleeper hold and going off the top rope on martha mccallum before cutting a promo where he says trump is too chicken to fcae him in a rage-in-a-cage match

annoying, but on balance not really worse than Mayor Pete going on Bill Maher, which I didn't notice anyone here knocking him for

i would suggest that njr isn't a good essayist but when a deserving target is in his sights he can be very entertaining

I don't have a problem with anyone "going on" Bill Maher (or Fox News) per se.

though i definitely understand the urge to protect any innocent ears from hearing Bill Maher speak

the problem w/ these appearances is when lib shmuck agrees to play the foil in pseduo "debate"

Bernie wld seem insulated from that in town hall format, he can just hold forth, what's the downside?

Context matters, and I can imagine Bernie's wild-haired white man shouting schtick explaining democratic socialism working on FOX.

WaPo has a handy new breakdown/questionnaire for all candidates on M4A / health care legislation generally

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/medicare-for-all/

Fuck Mayor Pete for going on Bill Maher, but it's still two different things. Maher is an entertainment show on an entertainment channel. Fox is a propaganda channel masquerading as a news channel, and Dems should not help them keep up the scam.

Perhaps the question should be, why are Fox News helping Bernie?

lol so is MSNBC

xp

Perhaps the question should be, why are Fox News helping Bernie?

― o. nate, Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:06 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

russians!

I have a liberal acquaintance who's on my side on Medicare for all, punching the shit out of the GOP, etc, yet remains addicted to Bill Maher's show.

My acquaintance is often a macho blowhard, so it makes sense.

the answer to everything xp

yr friend sounds like "a mainstream Democrat"

xps yeah Morbs Chris Hayes really fleecing the nation w/ his segment on Puerto Rico last night, what devilry

I assume Fox thinks all americans hate socialism so if the Dems nominate a socialist, Trump is guaranteed reelection

o. nate otm.

fred, i think you're putting wayyyyyyyyy too much weight on this idea that Bernie is somehow lending Fox News credibility here

I couldn't figure out how Bill Maher was still a thing and then I found out it's on Friday nights and that is prime "dads' unwinding time."

Hadrian, obv there are differences, and variations in the programming

also i haven't seen any of that shit in years, except at other ppl's houses

can you imagine "unwinding" to Bill Maher

fred, i think you're putting wayyyyyyyyy too much weight on this idea that Bernie is somehow lending Fox News credibility here

― ⅋ (crüt), 3. april 2019 18:16 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't work with right-wing propagandists. I don't get why this is harder to understand than for instance 'don't take super pac money'.

can you imagine "unwinding" to Bill Maher

not without vodka

Red Bull and Drano

should the next Dem prez ban Fox from the press room, Fred?

(I don't care what yr answer is)

XP Worst Jenny Lewis song

Fred it’s well documented that you don’t understand how any of this works so I ain’t gonna take no lip

Fox isn't stupid and they don't do a thing unless it's going to be good for Trump and the GOP

everyone relax

I am calm, posting as I always do

they don't do a thing unless they calculate it's going to be good for Trump and the GOP, but political calculations do fail. for example, most democrats calculated trump was a weak opponent they could easily trounce.

Fox isn't stupid

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lol

the defense rests

it's a smart move for Bernie, even in the worst-case scenario he'll get points in the primaries for going into the lion's den and shouting at FOX audience

They're not stupid though. I think getting Bernie in front of a Fox News audience in a town hall format would be a great idea if Fox News didn't control e.g. the lighting, the makeup, the questions, the audience reaction shots (disgust, eye-rolling, etc) and on and on

Fox isn't stupid and they don't do a thing unless it's going to be good for Trump and the GOP

― Dan I., Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:42 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

could also be that they want to attract a bunch of viewers that don't typically watch fox because ratings/$$$

let them do their worst.

anyway kev otm this is a really dumb thing to handwring about