Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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May will drink tea w/ Corbyn. Sounds like a plan.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:08 (seven years ago)

xp - *rushes into casino, plonks deeds to his house on 00* Yes!

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:08 (seven years ago)

Glad this is finally sorted tbf

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:09 (seven years ago)

I don't actually know what to do with the knowledge that Tom Watson has been listening to 'Pussyole (Oldskool)' on the way to the Commons.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:22 PM

send it to the sun's newsdesk, let's get him cancelled

― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:24 PM

Watson for PM

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:09 (seven years ago)

jesus why wasnt i called xp

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:10 (seven years ago)

May pleading with Corbz to come to her rescue. Sort of.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:11 (seven years ago)

May is about to do another podium thing outside number 10 soon after a day of talks, anyone expecting her to say anything new?

MAY: The Leader of the Opposition and I have been alerted to the existence of a...squints at autocue scrobbling service that is believed to belong to the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party...

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:11 (seven years ago)

I think in a sense we all belong to the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party now.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:15 (seven years ago)

Oh yeah the bit:

"Theresa May says she understands some people are so fed up that they want to leave with no deal. But she supports leaving with one and says we need a short extension to article 50.

She says the debate cannot be allowed to drag on and adds that the Commons’ approach has not worked.

May says she is offering to sit down with the leader of the opposition, Jeremy Corbyn, to come up with a plan to leave with a deal. But she says that deal must include her withdrawal agreement."

Shit. Does anyone know the web address for Zoopla?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:15 (seven years ago)

"May says the extension would be “as short as possible” and would end once a deal was struck.

She says any plan both she and Corbyn agreed upon would then be put to MPs for approval with a view to it being taken to next week’s European Council meeting.

If she and Corbyn cannot agree a unified approach, May says, then a series of options for the future relationship would be put to the Commons in a series of votes. The prime minister adds that the government would abide by the decision of the House – but only if Labour did so too.

May also says she wants the process to be finished by 22 May so that the UK does not have to take part in the European Parliament elections."

I mean in fairness, this is new. It's also nuts.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:17 (seven years ago)

I mean, I’ll take this short term scenario over crashing out next week

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:17 (seven years ago)

A quick question: is Labour essentially voting against all Brexit plans (May’s plan, no plan, etc.) on the general principle that they are against leaving the EU?

Apologies in advance if things aren’t so simple but I can’t tell these hobgoblins apart.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:20 (seven years ago)

xp but if it doesn't work they WILL crash out bc the deadline for signing up to EU elections is April 10th. Gov need to sign up to EU elections but tza has needlessly drawn a big red line under that, it means doing so would be a big capitulation and a nightmare for any sensible heads that try to steer away from the rocks now. since brexit means brexit.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:21 (seven years ago)

so shes taking no deal off the table (in a soft way or a firm guarantee?) and after that did she give any sign that its her deal or no deal, or did she hint at a shift in her red lines?

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

xp no, it is the tory's that are voting against all the plans

plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

xxxp But this is still crashing out next week - none of these things she's talking about are I think at all possible - it's just shifting the blame to Corbyn.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:23 (seven years ago)

this is EXACTLY the same scenario, only she's invited corbyn to a private lipsycned performance of her saying "the will of the people" over and over

plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:24 (seven years ago)

this is crashing out. unless she agrees to a long extension now that is the only possible outcome and that would mean doing eu elections which would be undemocratic apparently

plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:25 (seven years ago)

A quick question: is Labour essentially voting against all Brexit plans (May’s plan, no plan, etc.) on the general principle that they are against leaving the EU?

Apologies in advance if things aren’t so simple but I can’t tell these hobgoblins apart.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3GaUlKXQAAxhDv.jpg

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:25 (seven years ago)

Quick reaction to May speech from EU source:
"Not looking great. She didn't entertain the possibility of a long extension or EP elections. And she seems to take for granted a that she can secure an extension to 22/5...

— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) April 2, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:27 (seven years ago)

I think EU elections are more plausible than we think.

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:28 (seven years ago)

Two “malicious obstructions” found on railway lines in the UK are linked to Brexit, police believe.

British Transport Police (BTP) said short-circuiting devices were left on tracks near Yaxley, Cambridgeshire, and Netherfield, Nottinghamshire, last month in “a serious and deliberate attempt by someone to cause significant sabotage and disruption to Britain’s rail network”.

Detectives investigating the attempted sabotage “believe it relates to Britain’s exit from the European Union”.

The devices, installed at Yaxley on 21 March and Netherfield on 27 March, were detected by Network Rail workers and removed without disrupting services.

A note found attached to the devices warned: "We will bring this country to its knees if we don't leave."

....

A picture of one of the devices posted on social media by a train driver showed a note reading: "Government betrayal. Leave means leave. We will bring this country to its knees if we don't leave."

The driver, Lucio Buffone, wrote: "Due to European directives, this line had been upgraded to axel counters, so the protest had no effect."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-train-railway-line-cambridgeshire-nottinghamshire-police-a8851181.html

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:29 (seven years ago)

If she and Corbyn cannot agree a unified approach, May says, then a series of options for the future relationship would be put to the Commons in a series of votes. The prime minister adds that the government would abide by the decision of the House – but only if Labour did so too.

this is it, she's caved

ogmor, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:30 (seven years ago)

The May 22nd extension is at least putatively off the table as far as Brussels is concerned iirc due to the WA not passing in MV3? Is that still their stance?

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

xp I really don't know what the last clause there means - that she'd expect a whipped vote for a later "turn the indicative votes into law" section?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:32 (seven years ago)

xp in theory yes but everyone knows they’re not going to have a no deal crash out just before EU elections, it’d fuck everyone even more than the no deal would...

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:33 (seven years ago)

xxp yeah, now she has until next Friday to present a plan, the EU has claimed this will now (as in since Saturday morning) need to include EU Elections.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

but doctor i am lucio buffone

mark s, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

xp Yeah, but that's why they put the no deal deadline at next week, May would have had it (and by the sounds of things would still like it) up against the elections.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:35 (seven years ago)

House – but only if Labour did so too.

this is it, she's caved

― ogmor, Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:30 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

She's prepared to go down and let the UK be sucked into the abyss, but not without dragging Labour with her imo.

She'll drink tea w/ Corbz, they can't find a plan: Labour's fault.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:51 (seven years ago)

Technical softened black Brexit ftw

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:55 (seven years ago)

brutal blackened death brexit

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:58 (seven years ago)

"I'm just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him to smash up his party so I don't have to smash up mine." pic.twitter.com/f13oUyyUO0

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) April 2, 2019

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 18:25 (seven years ago)

/If she and Corbyn cannot agree a unified approach, May says, then a series of options for the future relationship would be put to the Commons in a series of votes. The prime minister adds that the government would abide by the decision of the House – but only if Labour did so too./

this is it, she's caved


I disagree. If she had caved, in whichever direction, we would surely have seen a cabinet resignation or at least some chink in the collective armour. This is a further doubling down on her deal. Corbyn is just a distraction but she hopes will prove a useful idiot (poor read).

Reports that the cabinet had to surrender mobile phones...

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 20:18 (seven years ago)

but only if labour did so too

i mean

what does this even mean

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 20:20 (seven years ago)

May appears to be arguing, controversially, that legislation enacted by Parliament becomes the law of the land.

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 20:23 (seven years ago)

It's a head scratcher that one. (xp)

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 20:24 (seven years ago)

Nah loose lips gave her away, she's thinking of the blame game undoubtedly ahead: no fair we get the blame, Labour needs to get the blame too.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 20:38 (seven years ago)

I love this song

PPS: “Just to be really clear: ERG have done this to party. They’ve softened Brexit because they were too proud and stupid to realise what was at stake. Baker has single-handedly put 5 points on Corbyn. Puts him in No10. And it puts the Brexiteers on the moron side of history.” https://t.co/RE3T4zEE45

— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) April 2, 2019

... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:21 (seven years ago)

xp I'd be amazed if we don't get a few cabinet resignations tomorrow, once they have an opportunity to unburden their troubled souls to a few journalists.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:24 (seven years ago)

Hahaha hope we get some resignations tomorrow

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:28 (seven years ago)

Pretty disgusting that Tory Marxists are still trying to shift the blame away from Corbyn

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:29 (seven years ago)

Meanwhile the ERG are a bit miffed. Diddums.

Just talked to two ERG MPs. Angry doesn’t quite cut it.

“This is serious stuff. She has fucked our party. She is fucking brexit. She is fucking the country.”

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) April 2, 2019

Ned Trifle X, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:31 (seven years ago)

That’s me finally done.. I couldn’t now care less about voting for the next leader .
Jeremy Corbyn has no right to be involved after his behaviour over the last two years .@theresa_may you just killed @Conservatives party pic.twitter.com/wOw9LYkni1

— Adam Brooks (@EssexPR) April 2, 2019


Love this thread & there’s a classic Hedges reply in the thread as well

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:33 (seven years ago)

Killed the Conservative Party? If only.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:34 (seven years ago)

DUP warn of dangers of “subcontracting” brexit to Jeremy Corbyn pic.twitter.com/VJl3bGJN5A

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) April 2, 2019

Lolllll

gyac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:36 (seven years ago)

If May's looking for someone to bear the blame with her, I would suggest David Cameron.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:41 (seven years ago)

inviting the Corbz around to own the DUPs!

calzino, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:48 (seven years ago)

she shoulda said "Brexit means Brexit" again

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:51 (seven years ago)

If May's looking for someone to bear the blame with her, I would suggest David Cameron.


I see the 10 downing Street cat was let out the front door gently this evening. Probably due a shoeing tomorrow.

Anyone pick up why penny mordaunt left 10 downing street about half an hour before the rest of the cabinet?

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 21:54 (seven years ago)


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