defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

I'm ok with Glenn generally, but going on Tucker Carlson to gloat about russiagate seems dumb. Nothing wrong with going on Tucker's show, and more people should do so, but only if you're going to actually use his platform otherwise you're just his useful idiot.

The Michael Tracey guy seems unhinged, desperate to make a bigger name for himself, or both. Not a person to be taken seriously at any rate

Nothing wrong with going on Tucker's show, and more people should do so, but only if you're going to actually use his platform otherwise you're just his useful idiot.

How exactly is this supposed to work? It's well documented that if a Carlson segment goes poorly for him, he just won't air it.

If thats a reference to the Dutch historian thing, I thought the historian guy totally blew that. Tucker would have aired the clip if the historian had stuck to talking about taxation. His decision to launch into a full blooded takedown of Fox/Carlson was never going to air and he knew that, was playing to gallery for the retweets instead.

You don't need the segment to go poorly for Carlson to still get points of view across (taxation, anti-war, legalization, m4a or whatever)

no one should ever go on tucker's show for any reason. i'm the final arbiter of this. thanks.

also glenn greenwald is perfectly indefensible. lock thread.

wow the Taibbi/Greenwald obsessives have been busy today, so

Didn't see David Corn at the local co-op today. I half expected to find him in the parking lot, selling his Russiagate book out of his trunk.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) March 31, 2019

who

say glenn greenwald is bottoming but he hasn't cleaned out. what should his last name be changed to? brownwald.

oh no

I've been 'letting that one sit' for a few days now

defend the indefensible: Dennis Perrin tweets

greenwald might work as is, depending on health and diet

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Kind of pissed that Carlson never has DJ Spooky on as a guest, they could debate bullshit IDM

illbient times

Lol

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(tbc i appreciate the intercept. that image just reminded me of the stuff you see on subway walls advertising these amorphous "leadership conferences.")

(also: pitbull)

I've been to one of those conferences, it was a nightmare. Bill Cosby gave a speech that was basically a long riff on "get off my lawn, kids". Somehow the only moderately decent speech was Colin Powell.

I honestly don't get why Greenwald is so ride or die to defend Trump from accusations of corruption. Today he's hammering on "the only thing those Resistance wackos are unhappy about in Barr's report is that he suppressed any discussion of the evidence that people working for Trump obstructed justice," which, um, yeah, why would that not be something to be seriously unhappy about?

This 100+ thread is a tough read:

1) So now we have self-described “progressives” like @ggreenwald and @mtracey telling us that the threat of white nationalism in the USA is “nonexistent” (as Tracey put it), and when called out for that GG chimes in and claims that we “needs be keep the threat in perspective.” pic.twitter.com/89CDRKzN1v

— David Neiwert (@DavidNeiwert) May 20, 2019

but take a step back from inside the charred remains of this black church and—oh right you can't you're dead

fuck this asshole

Honestly the importance and impressiveness of the work he is doing in Brazil right now kind of makes most criticism seem petty.

nope

He criticized the Iraq War once, so the defense of white supremacists is cool.

he misgendered my friend and refused to apologize for it and caterwauled about how unfair it was to him on a fuckin podcast, he can burn in hell, i don't give a shit

petty my ass

not even gonna ask

Idk anything about brad’s friend but he is literally risking his life to report something that could bring down an actual, literal fascist. That kind of makes whether he had the exact right take on twitter on exactly how we should approach white supremacists (“defending” is a gross distortion) seem petty, yes. But, you know, online.

he misgendered my friend while defending jesse singal, who writes transphobic garbage for the atlantic. i have no doubt that his work in brazil is important. thank god i can hate his guts anyway

i'm glad a chapo episode convinced you that we all don't have legitimate grievances against this shithead tho

fuck this dude can't abide his bullshit

Little bit of a different story when the authoritarian powered by fake news is in your own (new) backyard, huh Glenn?

right??

what/where is this important Brazilian reporting?

https://theintercept.com/staff/glenn-greenwald/

thanks

Little bit of a different story when the authoritarian powered by fake news is in your own (new) backyard, huh Glenn?

― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:08 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Bolsonaro is like several orders of magnitude more authoritarian than trump. Or at least their system
Allows him to be whereas ours still places some checks on Trump.

or more that there's a system that could theoretically check Trump that, regardless of his efforts and bumbling, he can't significantly break down over four, or god forbid, eight years

Also FYI while I first learned of his recent story through Chapo, i also worked for a year on Lava Jato-related litigation and had already followed the larger story. So it’s not like I think it’s significant because Will M says so.

he is literally risking his life to report something that could bring down an actual, literal fascist

And there are no Brazilian journalists reporting on Bolsonaro, which is why The Intercept is the only place one can go to hear about all the terrible shit going on down there. ¡Viva Greenwald!

TheIntercept is good on Brazil, but the idea that this somehow invalidates criticism of Greenwald is nonsensical. It's really not that hard to avoid going on Tucker Carlson.

no one..said that

"he sucks but also does good/worthwhile work on occasion" is really not that complicated a sentiment to hold in one's mind

Meaning, I take it, that criticism of him is not petty.

he misapprehended what shows to appear on and refused to apologize for it

And there are no Brazilian journalists reporting on Bolsonaro, which is why The Intercept is the only place one can go to hear about all the terrible shit going on down there. ¡Viva Greenwald!

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Actually, the Intercept literally broke the most significant corruption story since Lava Jato itself (and arguably a bigger one), and that story demonstrates that the entire Lava Jato investigation itself was rigged against PT. So it actually literally is true that the Intercept is the only place that one can go to hear about that particular thing which is of enormous significance. But I never actually expect the slightest degree of comprehension or sophistication to show up in your posts so I'm not really surprised by your stupidity here.

fwiw, I take back my statement that this renders criticism of him "petty" -- I don't want to argue with anyone's grievances against him. I just think he doesn't deserved to be "cancelled" in light of all of this. But his bravery pales in comparison to those who always dare to have the correct takes on everything.

Wonder if he’s sucked Dan Savage’s dick